Re: [rti4empowerment] Re: [HumJanenge] Information about RTI martyrs

Dear Ashok,

 

I did not mean promotion of the book whivch Nutan Thakur is writing. My suggestion was a means to ensure that persons who apply for information from public authorities which exposes corruption & endangers  those corrupt which is likely to result in their retaliating by physical attack on such applicants, that applicant's RTI Application should be supported by co-ordinating supportive RTI applications from others sy at least 25 from all over India. In such a case there will not be an isolated applicant & the persons who are exposed will not be able to targett a single person.

 

E.G. If A addresses a RTI application to public authority B  situated e.g. at a place in India  C which seeks information exposing corruption that would endanger the corrupt, similar to application by A, at least 25 applications  should be addressed to same public authority B by different persons from different parts of India by a co-ordinated understanding. In that case, A will not be targetted as many would have sought the same information.

While I do not discredit Nutan Thakur's intention to write that book, except for publicising an ignominous chapters in Indian democracy, what would it achieve? Will it wipe tears from the eyes of the family members of those dead for they ventured to expose corruption by using RTI? No!

 

What is needed is solidarity & co-ordination among ourselves without any organisational hegemony.

 

Regards,

 

WEDS

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From: ~Ashok <lama1126in@yahoo.co.in>
To: DSouza Wilberious Evanglist <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk>; Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com>
Cc: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com; amitabhth@yahoo.com; bimal.khemani@gmail.com; bimal khemani <bimal.khemani@yahoo.co.in>; Amitabh Thakur <amitabhthakurlko@gmail.com>; wilevades@yahoo.co.uk
Sent: Sun, 13 February, 2011 0:14:45
Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Re: [HumJanenge] Information about RTI martyrs

Dear DSouza Wilberious Evanglist and Dr JN Sharma; My sincere thanks to you for your support and solidarity for all those and others who  Mr Amitabh Thakur would include in his forthcoming work. I am also in full agreement with your views to flood the concerned Authorities with petitions from different individuals and or groups to draw their attention on the plights of tens of thousands of such hapless people. Here, I also assure you to get signatures/ support from a few thousands of my contacts, in short period of time after some data on the loosers is available to be placed in your proposed petition. Dr.JN Sharma could provide some leads ! some leads here. Loveful Regards Ashok Sharma   Reach out and touch someone with your Love & Gratitude. ~Ashok --- On Sat, 12/2/11, Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> wrote: From: Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [rti4empowerment] Re: [HumJanenge] Information about RTI martyrs To: "DSouza Wilberious Evanglist" <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk> Cc: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com, lama1126in@yahoo.co.in, amitabhth@yahoo.com, bimal.khemani@gmail.com, "bimal khemani" <bimal.khemani@yahoo.co.in>, "Amitabh Thakur" <amitabhthakurlko@gmail.com> Date: Saturday, 12 February, 2011, 10:08 PM DEAR WEDS & ALL           We can update information/feedback and give more coverage for  the book on martyrs. Dr JN Sharma On 2/10/11, DSouza Wilberious Evanglist <wilevades@yahoo.co.uk> wrote: > Dear All, > > I endorse fully Ashoks view without discrediting Thakurs' effort to write a > book. These incidences of persons losing ones life owing to assertion of > ones > fundamental right can be effectively remedied if many solidarity > applications > are addressed to same Public Authority from different persons from all over > India alongwith that application for information by any applicant seeking > information exposing embezzlement , corruption etc. > > Much more than the book if we aid the family of those who have lost their > lives > it would br the best aid & salutation to those who have left us. > > Regards, > WEDS > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> > To: lama1126in@yahoo.co.in > Cc: humjanenge@googlegroups.com; amitabhthakurlko@gmail.com; > amitabhth@yahoo.com; rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com > Sent: Wed, 9 February, 2011 21:56:59 > Subject: [rti4empowerment] Re: [HumJanenge] Information about RTI martyrs > > Dear Ashok >         Your  assessment  what I understand is that about all those > who  also  need to be in the fold. >         You are very much right  & I also believe that our aim must > be to serve the humanity at large. >           When ever and where ever we get an opportunity to serve the > needy, we must avail the same  and serve people/common man. >             Kindly keep it up as you have suggested. >             Regards >             Dr JN Sharma > > On 2/9/11, ~Ashok <lama1126in@yahoo.co.in> wrote: >> Dear  Dr. J.N. Sharma ji: >> >> While no doubt all such efforts and like the one initiated so earnestly by >> Mr Amitabh and Dr. Nutan Thakur, arise out of concerns for our people and >> must appreciably be seen as such Acts that slowly but surely, strengthen >> more and move further to achieving what true freedom is and the Rights of >> all ordinary citizens who truly are the Owners of this country: but Dr. >> J.N >> Sharma ji, should we not treat all many others as Martyrs - all those who >> remained much less fortunate to steal a limelight in Media and press but >> who >> number in >> several hundreds or rather in thousands in many states,  our farmers and >> others,  who gave their lives fighting to protect their lands and crops in >> every state like Maharasthtra, Andhra, Orrissa etc., most of who, before >> committing suicide or laying their lives in protest have waged a valiant >> battle like any soldier on the borders, but here to save their families >> from >> being starving, from being uprooted from their ancesteral modest homes and >> huts, and must have  made several rounds with their shaking skeleton >> bodies >> to the District offices,running here and there to  their elected >> representatives or a local local patwari, Coollecters office etc etc and, >> during such unfortunate durations of tormenting times, gave their lives >> facing atrocities... ? >> >> Just my view ! >> >> Ashok Sharma >> >> Reach out and touch someone with your Love & Gratitude. >> >> ~Ashok >> >> >> >> --- On Tue, 8/2/11, Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >> From: Dr. Jagnarain Sharma <dr.jagnarainsharma@gmail.com> >> Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Information about RTI martyrs >> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com >> Cc: rti4empowerment@googlegroups.com >> Date: Tuesday, 8 February, 2011, 10:01 AM >> >> THANKS DEAR AMITABH >> Good job you are doing. >> Dr JN Sharma >> >> On 2/8/11, Amitabh Thakur <amitabhthakurlko@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Friends, >>> >>> >>> As I had already requested u previously, me and my wife Nutan are writing >>> a >>> book on RTI martyrs. For various reasons, the book has got delayed. >>> >>> We have the following request- >>> 1. Kindly point out any other name of RTI martyrs which has got left here >>> 2. Kindly help us by providing information about the RTI martyrs about >>> whom >>> u have some information >>> >>> >>>  We eagerly wait for ur response at amitabhthakurlko@gmail.com or >>> amitabhth@yahoo.com or at 94155-34526 >>> >>> >>> At present the RTI Martyrs (in chronological order) whom we are to cover >>> in >>> our book are as follows- >>> >>> 1. Lalit Kumar Mehta, Palamau, Jharkhand. >>> >>> 2. Kameshwar Yadav Giridih (Jharkhand) >>> >>> 3. Venkatesh from Eranapalyta (Bengaluru, Karnataka) >>> >>> 4. Satish Shetty Pune >>> >>> 5. Vishram Laxman Dodiya Surat (Gujarat). >>> >>> 6.  Shashidhar Mishra, Begusarai (Bihar) >>> >>> 7. Arun Sawant, from Badlapur (District Thane, Maharashtra) >>> >>>  8. Sola Ranga Rao of Krishna district, Andhra Pradesh >>> >>> 9. Vitthal Gite Aurangabad (Maharashtra >>> >>> 10. Dattatreya Patil - Ichalkaranji (Kolhapur district, Maharashtra) >>> >>> 11. Amit Jethwa  Junagarh, Gujarat. >>> >>> 12. Ramdas Patil Ghadegaonkar, Nanded, Maharasthra >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Amitabh Thakur, >>> IPS, >>> National RTI Forum, >>> Lucknow >>> 94155-34526 >>> >> >> >> > > > >