Friday, March 11, 2011

[rti4empowerment] RE: [HumJanenge] query on co operative housing society matter

DEAR MR. VIKRAM SIMHA,
 
i SHALL BE GRATEFUL FOR THE CITATIONS ON THIS ISSUE WHETHER REGISTRAR (OFFICE) IN ANY STATE HAS NO MONITORING AND SUPERVISING POWERS UNDER THE
Cooperative Group Housing SocietIes Act.  What for the Act was passed by the Legislative Assembly of that State?
 
2.    DELHI GOVT. MADE THIS ACT ALL INDIA ACT FOR NINE YEARS ON THE BASIS OF  A LOCAL CIRCULAR OF ONE CORRUPT RCS.  
 
3.    PRESIDENT OF THE CGHS FEDERATION WHO IS LIFE-LONG PRESIDENT OF A Society is freely quoted that the complaint made by the applicant has no truth. So 
      I allow all the members who filed wrong affidavits to keep their flats in the Society. Such non-speaking orders are issued in Delhi.
 
Please do supply me some positive citations of High Courts and of the Suprem Court of India.
 
With best wishes and regards,
 
Hari Goyal
11.03.2011

P.s. If 54 is the age, i am more than 20 years elder to you and will continue seeking your guidance in this fight. Thanksm once again.  
 

Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2011 20:07:48 +0530
From: vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in
Subject: Fw: Re: Fw: [HumJanenge] query on co operative housing society matter
To: haridgoyal@hotmail.com
CC: bharatgandhi6@gmail.com; rtidwarka@yahoo.co.in; apseri@yahoo.com

Please Find My reply In the matter and How different high courts have treated the matter . i can provide you the Citations if you need them

N vikramsimha , KRIA Koota & trustee RTI STUDY Center  , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.

--- On Wed, 9/3/11, Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: Vikram Simha <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: Fw: [HumJanenge] query on co operative housing society matter
To: "arun shet" <arun_shilp@yahoo.co.in>
Cc: "veeresh Bellur" <veeresh_bellur@yahoo.com>, svkk30@yahoo.com, wearcraft@vsnl.com
Date: Wednesday, 9 March, 2011, 2:26 PM

Dear Arun ji& others,
The interpretation of a Co-op Society Falling into the ambit of RTI Act 2005 or not has now Become a very Big issue for Debate , especially in Karnataka .
Unfortunately in One decesion from karnataka High court , A very narrow Interpretation Was deliverd by a single Judge Bench mostly Without Going into the Circumstances in which the RTI act Was Enacted which Any court Cannot Ignore Delhi High Court WP(civil) 3845/2007 Pronunced on 28/04/2009) However this Ruling is Yet to be Challenged. therefore If the Application is Made in Karnataka for seeking information from A Co-op Society the Registrar is Bound Get it from Such an society .
In this Background I will Now discuss what the Tamilnadu High court has Ordered , It has Decreed that the government Having a Department itself to supervise Regulate and Control the activities of these Coop Societies is itself "INDIRECT" finance  to such Coop"s and therefore all Co-op Fall into the ambit of RTI Act 2005 .
If you have a case We will argue on these lines citing the Tamilnadu high court order.
However on the Broader Analyses of what is stated by Mr shailesh in his mail , the Registrar ought to have transfered the application under section ^6 subsection 3 to the society in pune . He cannot in any circumstance Retain the RTI request and Direct to approach the society .
My Request to Mr Shailesh is that he should approach His concerned Information commissioner In Pune in Complaint as provided under Section 18 for relief's  and suitable directions .
I donot have any Maha rastra Information commissions Orders or bombay high court Orders with me to the contrary  and Hence Marked to my Maharastra counterparts For Clarifications and Enlightening

N vikramsimha , KRIA Koota & trustee RTI study center  , #12 Sumeru Sir M N Krishna Rao Road , Basvangudi < Bangalore 560004.

--- On Tue, 8/3/11, arun shet <arun_shilp@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: arun shet <arun_shilp@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Fw: [HumJanenge] query on co operative housing society matter
To: "VEERESH" <veeresh_bellur@yahoo.com>
Cc: "vikramsimha" <vikramsimha54@yahoo.co.in>
Date: Tuesday, 8 March, 2011, 1:56 PM



--- On Mon, 7/3/11, Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Shailesh <svkk30@yahoo.com>
Subject: [HumJanenge] query on co operative housing society matter
To: HumJanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Monday, 7 March, 2011, 10:41 AM

Sir,
 
Being a MHADA land, our co operative housing society based at Pune comes under RTI Act.  For society registers/documents, I applied to Registrar Office at Pune (Bibwewadi area) with Rs.10/- court fee stamp as the committee members avoiding for the same.
 
The Registrar inform me that I have to approach to Society.  The original RTI application is retain with him (Registrar) . 
 
I expect the action from Registrar office that he will forward my application to the society and intimate me for the same.  However, he simply inform me to approach to the society.
 
Does any one have any decision of SIC/CIC in this regard?
 
Please inform
 




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