Saturday, August 27, 2011

Re: [HumJanenge] FW: Joint Statement on Martyrdom of Shehla Masood (for your endorsement)

It is very sad, fighting corruption has become so dangerous in this country n still their are strong voices against anti corruption movement of anna on this very blog.

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, mukhtar ahmed <drmukhtar555@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: mukhtar ahmed <drmukhtar555@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] FW: Joint Statement on Martyrdom of Shehla Masood (for your endorsement)
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 9:28 PM

dear sir,
 
1. I endorse very strongly. We hope that the law will catch up with the culprits who managed to snuff out the life of a lady. What could have been more shameful for any man.
Dr Mukhtar 

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, subhash lomte <subhashlomte@gmail.com> wrote:

From: subhash lomte <subhashlomte@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] FW: Joint Statement on Martyrdom of Shehla Masood (for your endorsement)
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 3:35 PM

I too strongly endorse.......................

Re

Subhash Lomte

Samajwadi Jan Parishad / National Campaign Committee for Rural Workers

Auranagabad

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 7:11 PM, Adv. Abhay Patil <asalil2001@gmail.com> wrote:
I Strongly Endorse.
 
Regards,
 
Adv. ABHAY SHARAD PATIL
India Against Corruption
Pachora(Maharashtra)
9423161993

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 12:09 AM, SHASHI KUMAR.A.R. <rudreshtechnology@gmail.com> wrote:
I Stongly Endorse .

A.R.S.KUMAR B.E.LLB. MA JOURNALISM 
SOCIAL ACTIVIST 
SWAMY VIVEKANANDA RESEARCH CENTRE FOR SOCIAL AND DEMOCRATIC REFORMATION 
BANGALORE 


On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 4:17 PM, mukhtar ahmed <drmukhtar555@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
I strongly endorse .
 
I hope that her sacrifice will not go in vain and that successive activists will pick up where she left off . That will be the best way we could carry on the legacy of a  great selfless soul who gave her today for our tomorrow.
 
Dr Mukhtar

--- On Wed, 24/8/11, Daljit Dhillon <bdicky07@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: Daljit Dhillon <bdicky07@yahoo.co.in>

Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] FW: Joint Statement on Martyrdom of Shehla Masood (for your endorsement)
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
Date: Wednesday, 24 August, 2011, 11:50 AM

I Strongly edorse
 
Regards,
 
Brig. D.S. Dhillon
Resident Director,
RAP MEDIA LTD.
(M) 9876707449
 

From: arun gurtoo <agurtoo@hotmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Monday, 22 August 2011 10:17 PM
Subject: RE: [HumJanenge] FW: Joint Statement on Martyrdom of Shehla Masood (for your endorsement)

I FULLY ENDORSE. I KNEW HER AS AN INTENSELY DEDICATED RTI ACTIVIST AND ANNA SUPPORTER.   

Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 09:32:19 +0530
From: mk.singhal@yahoo.co.in
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] FW: Joint Statement on Martyrdom of Shehla Masood (for your endorsement)
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com

I endorse. mksinghal, A46 Suryanagar, Ghaziabad, UP, 201011, m 9891006868

From: Anand acf <acfanand@gmail.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 21 August 2011 12:49 PM
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] FW: Joint Statement on Martyrdom of Shehla Masood (for your endorsement)

I endorse

--
Anand S.
Coordinator, Anti Corruption Forum
Bangalore 560 085.
Cell No. +91-98450-39699







Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING

Hi Sarbajit,

A few days ago you flamed at another members unprofessional use of language in the group mails and at another time when your point of view is contradicted.

Mr R Srinivasan: you being an advocate would know how even the clerks in the court need money to do the work they are required to be doing . 
Hundreds of those poor lower bureaucrats you mention, pay bribe to get a plum posting and then justify their corruption because they need to break even and make a profit.

There will not be. 100% concurrence on the movement. Even for the Independence Movement, there were thousands of Indians, many employed or enjoying British Patronage, used to ridicule the freedom fighters.

I do not expect the import of what has happenned, to register to you just yet. For some people, it will take some time to realize. However, you and your families will reap the benefits.

Cheers

Harjaap

Sent from my iphone

On 28-Aug-11, at 8:47 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:

Very well expressed. The shameless sight of Ms Kiran Bedi waggling her fat bum on National Television alone should have caused any upright police police officer to stop that gathering if this was not a politically sanctioned affair from high commnd.

Sarbajit

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:40 AM, R Srinivasan <kamsri2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
Anna Ha,teh bra nd ambassador  for Gandhi Cap which Gandhi himself abandoned,and his branded T Shirts has in a sense torpedoed the constitution.A case in the SupremeCourt after the lokpal bill of ANNA is passed will establish this,Kiran Bedi would have been the first to arrest him and prevent his gathering if in power as police officer has joined the band wagon .The indiscriminate use of the National Flag as if it is a party flag is in violation of the National Flag Act as it borders on disrespect.
The ultimate sufferer will be the poor lower level bureaucrat who will be an easy target and cannot defend himself. under the popular lokpal Bill
God Save the Country,
R.Srinivasan(Advocate)

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, jaiprakash  narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
To: humjanenge@googlegzare
Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 10:09 AM


very good,I am anna,u r anna,ab to sara desh hai Anna.

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com>
Subject: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
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Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 8:37 AM

1. NO ONE denied MP & MLAs their "Exclusive" Right to make Rules & Laws.
IF they had done, WE wouldn't have this miserable Governance of the country.
 
2. Anna & or his team has NOT Usurped their rights.
 
3. By their DIS HONOURABLE TRACK RECORD, the parliamentarians have FORFEITED their right to be even be addressed as "Hon'able"
 
4. Anna is filling THE VACUME created by ABDICATION of Parliamentary duties by these "WORTHLESS" & the make a hue & cry of Democracy in Danger ?
 
CHORE KOTWAL KO DATE ? ? ?
 
5. LET US ALL STOP ADDRESSING THE CHORS & LOOTERS as Hon'able.
 
 
 
Thanks for your time.

Best Wishes.
 
Parvez Jamasji
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com./IAF/Database/9834.
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Sent: Friday, 26 August 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
Dear Mr. Rahul Gandhi:
In your speech today in parliament you said that Janlokpal bill in itself will not remove corruption.

Thats what we are also saying.  Thats why in addition to LP bill,

-- Election reforms wherein anyone who is charge sheeted should be barred from standing for elections

-- Revoke the Single Point Directive

-- Make CBI independent

-- Increase the number of judges 3 or five-fold as per Law Commission recommendations of many years ago

-- Suitable amendments to Evidence Act, CrPC, CPC, etc. to balance the rights of the aggrieved V/s the rights of the accused

-- Police reforms as per the orders of SC many years ago

--Withdrawal of the principle King Can Do No Wrong

-- Enact specific Law of Torts against the wrongs of the state and its agents

-- Etc.

Regards
Victor 

  

"arial" size="2">Victor 

  

>

Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING

JP Ji and Friends:

   This is the second time that I am sharing my views on this website -- but rerad every piece.

   I could not agree with you more; it is about time that persons of some professional ability and senior position or age, realise what they "mean" when they refer to "Rahul JI" ! He is NOT the PM yet, not yet.

   One has to do some tapasya, even attend the Parliament Meets regularly and learn what this amazing land and its myriad cultures are.

   We left Lahore (I am now 77) to find a place in a divided India and have felt in recent years whether India of the independence days will change for better.
The last 3-6 months show that we have it in us BUT it will take a lot of sacrifice and tapasya before we get to be a country worthy of a Vivekananda, a Gabdhi and a Tagore.

  God Bless and Peace.
dev chopra in gurgaon
*** 

On Sat, Aug 27, 2011 at 10:36 PM, jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in> wrote:
Pl ask him more question,if he is a VVIP MP n above PM or a special guest MP or some other type of MP why he does not come to parliament more regularly. He is a young MP like any other Young MP but he is gen missing from the house.even Today on 27/ 8/ 11 when there was a very or most important issue of the present time as per his own words, was being discussed he was missing from the house.Pl ask this question under RTI n his presence in the house.he dream to become next PM of this nation or so think the cong .It is shame n god save this country from such PMs.

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, Randhir Sethi <shebon@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Randhir Sethi <shebon@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 5:22 AM


Dear Mr Rahul Gandhi,

It was so magnanimous of you to have acknowledged and thanked ANNA,
for having brought the issue of corruption centre stage

now that you and your party which is in OFFICE, though powerless, have
come to know that there is rampant corruption in your desh,I am
certain that the govt shall initiate action to eradicate it

i do not think that the cash for votes scam now and the one earlier
both during the congress regime is undermining the sanctity of the
parliament, or demeaning our democracy

jai hind

sethi

On 8/26/11, Victor Cooper <victor99cooper@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Dear Mr. Rahul Gandhi:
> In your speech today in parliament you said that Janlokpal bill in itself
> will not remove corruption.
> Thats what we are also saying.  Thats why in addition to LP bill,
> -- Election reforms wherein anyone who is charge sheeted should be barred
> from standing for elections
> -- Revoke the Single Point Directive
> -- Make CBI independent
> -- Increase the number of judges 3 or five-fold as per Law Commission
> recommendations of many years ago
> -- Suitable amendments to Evidence Act, CrPC, CPC, etc. to balance the
> rights of the aggrieved V/s the rights of the accused
> -- Police reforms as per the orders of SC many years ago
> --Withdrawal of the principle King Can Do No Wrong
> -- Enact specific Law of Torts against the wrongs of the state and its
> agents
> -- Etc.
> RegardsVictor
>

Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING

My response to a lawyer friend

Let us not view  every thing  with legal technicalities.
we have seen how the so called legal minds of govt ...sibal and PC, EM TY (manish tewari ) included, had screwed up the case and mis handled the situation.
because of all this, eventually congress ended up with shit on their face

All this could have been handled and solved with dignity and grace, with  a little display of statesmanship

Regarding National Flag, this is the national symbol, it denotes our existence as a nation, we live and die for for this...... it is this flag for which we shed our blood and life just for unfurling it on a enemy feature  during a conflict.
\Every citizen should have the right to use, demonstrate, and display this national symbol 24x7x365.
 Yes any intentional disrespect should be dealt with seriously.

In so called developed countries of the west, flags are displayed on cars, hoisted on house tops, even worn on clothing / head gears... there are no restrictions

appreciate the positive impact of people's / anna's movement

Why pick up the crumps when the cake is there to share,.... enjoy the feast
 
Wg Cdr Johri


On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:40 AM, R Srinivasan <kamsri2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
Anna Ha,teh bra nd ambassador  for Gandhi Cap which Gandhi himself abandoned,and his branded T Shirts has in a sense torpedoed the constitution.A case in the SupremeCourt after the lokpal bill of ANNA is passed will establish this,Kiran Bedi would have been the first to arrest him and prevent his gathering if in power as police officer has joined the band wagon .The indiscriminate use of the National Flag as if it is a party flag is in violation of the National Flag Act as it borders on disrespect.
The ultimate sufferer will be the poor lower level bureaucrat who will be an easy target and cannot defend himself. under the popular lokpal Bill
God Save the Country,
R.Srinivasan(Advocate)

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, jaiprakash  narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
To: humjanenge@googlegzare
Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 10:09 AM

very good,I am anna,u r anna,ab to sara desh hai Anna.

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com>
Subject: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
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Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 8:37 AM

1. NO ONE denied MP & MLAs their "Exclusive" Right to make Rules & Laws.
IF they had done, WE wouldn't have this miserable Governance of the country.
 
2. Anna & or his team has NOT Usurped their rights.
 
3. By their DIS HONOURABLE TRACK RECORD, the parliamentarians have FORFEITED their right to be even be addressed as "Hon'able"
 
4. Anna is filling THE VACUME created by ABDICATION of Parliamentary duties by these "WORTHLESS" & the make a hue & cry of Democracy in Danger ?
 
CHORE KOTWAL KO DATE ? ? ?
 
5. LET US ALL STOP ADDRESSING THE CHORS & LOOTERS as Hon'able.
 
 
 
Thanks for your time.

Best Wishes.
 
Parvez Jamasji
http://twiter.com/parvezj                
                                                                                            
E      :   parvez1942@yahoo.com
        :   parvezjamasji@hotmail.com
 
Tel   : 91-22-2412 1656 > 9 am to 9 pm = GMT + 5 1/2 hrs.
Mob  : 91 - 9820813951 \ 98201 88926
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Sent: Friday, 26 August 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
Dear Mr. Rahul Gandhi:
In your speech today in parliament you said that Janlokpal bill in itself will not remove corruption.

Thats what we are also saying.  Thats why in addition to LP bill,

-- Election reforms wherein anyone who is charge sheeted should be barred from standing for elections

-- Revoke the Single Point Directive

-- Make CBI independent

-- Increase the number of judges 3 or five-fold as per Law Commission recommendations of many years ago

-- Suitable amendments to Evidence Act, CrPC, CPC, etc. to balance the rights of the aggrieved V/s the rights of the accused

-- Police reforms as per the orders of SC many years ago

--Withdrawal of the principle King Can Do No Wrong

-- Enact specific Law of Torts against the wrongs of the state and its agents

-- Etc.

Regards
Victor 

  



--
If You Can Not Stand Behind Our Troops ,

Please Feel Free To Stand In Front Of Them!

Regards
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09444412644

Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING

Surely Mr Srinivasan,  God is present in the form of us humans - I am sure you will agree with it. Some have more part of that and some very less.

May be that Anna like MG has in him what is required for the Bhagwan AVATAR to be. To show the light - as is said that for all evils there is an avatar who comes occasionally to lead the way!!

With you  - God saved the country!!

rgds
rahul


From: R Srinivasan <kamsri2005@yahoo.com>
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Sent: Sunday, 28 August 2011 7:40 AM
Subject: Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING

Anna Ha,teh bra nd ambassador  for Gandhi Cap which Gandhi himself abandoned,and his branded T Shirts has in a sense torpedoed the constitution.A case in the SupremeCourt after the lokpal bill of ANNA is passed will establish this,Kiran Bedi would have been the first to arrest him and prevent his gathering if in power as police officer has joined the band wagon .The indiscriminate use of the National Flag as if it is a party flag is in violation of the National Flag Act as it borders on disrespect.
The ultimate sufferer will be the poor lower level bureaucrat who will be an easy target and cannot defend himself. under the popular lokpal Bill
God Save the Country,
R.Srinivasan(Advocate)

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, jaiprakash  narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
To: humjanenge@googlegzare
Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 10:09 AM

very good,I am anna,u r anna,ab to sara desh hai Anna.

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com>
Subject: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
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Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 8:37 AM

1. NO ONE denied MP & MLAs their "Exclusive" Right to make Rules & Laws.
IF they had done, WE wouldn't have this miserable Governance of the country.
 
2. Anna & or his team has NOT Usurped their rights.
 
3. By their DIS HONOURABLE TRACK RECORD, the parliamentarians have FORFEITED their right to be even be addressed as "Hon'able"
 
4. Anna is filling THE VACUME created by ABDICATION of Parliamentary duties by these "WORTHLESS" & the make a hue & cry of Democracy in Danger ?
 
CHORE KOTWAL KO DATE ? ? ?
 
5. LET US ALL STOP ADDRESSING THE CHORS & LOOTERS as Hon'able.
 
 
 
Thanks for your time.

Best Wishes.
 
Parvez Jamasji
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From: Victor Cooper <victor99cooper@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Friday, 26 August 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
Dear Mr. Rahul Gandhi:
In your speech today in parliament you said that Janlokpal bill in itself will not remove corruption.

Thats what we are also saying.  Thats why in addition to LP bill,

-- Election reforms wherein anyone who is charge sheeted should be barred from standing for elections

-- Revoke the Single Point Directive

-- Make CBI independent

-- Increase the number of judges 3 or five-fold as per Law Commission recommendations of many years ago

-- Suitable amendments to Evidence Act, CrPC, CPC, etc. to balance the rights of the aggrieved V/s the rights of the accused

-- Police reforms as per the orders of SC many years ago

--Withdrawal of the principle King Can Do No Wrong

-- Enact specific Law of Torts against the wrongs of the state and its agents

-- Etc.

Regards
Victor 

  


Re: [HumJanenge] FW: Joint Statement on Martyrdom of Shehla Masood (for your endorsement)

Will somebody start bothering in similar fashion for Lt Saurabh Kalia- Lt Navdeep Singh too please.
 
Col K V C Nair

--- On Sun, 28/8/11, Shantharam Shenai <vagshantharamshenai@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Shantharam Shenai <vagshantharamshenai@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [HumJanenge] FW: Joint Statement on Martyrdom of Shehla Masood (for your endorsement)
To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Sunday, 28 August, 2011, 6:04 AM

    • Sermons in Erlangen, Marburg, G├Âttingen and Frankfurt (January 1946), as quoted in Martin Niem├Âller, 1892-1984 (1984) by James Bentley, p. 177.
  • Als die Nazis die Kommunisten holten,
    habe ich geschwiegen;
    ich war ja kein Kommunist.

    Als sie die Sozialdemokraten einsperrten,
    habe ich geschwiegen;
    ich war ja kein Sozialdemokrat.

    Als sie die Gewerkschafter holten,
    habe ich nicht protestiert;
    ich war ja kein Gewerkschafter.

    Als sie die Juden holten,
    habe ich geschwiegen;
    ich war ja kein Jude.

    Als sie mich holten,
    gab es keinen mehr, der protestierte.
    • When the Nazis came for the communists,
      I remained silent;
      I was not a communist.

      When they locked up the social democrats,
      I remained silent;
      I was not a social democrat.

      When they came for the trade unionists,
      I did not speak out;
      I was not a trade unionist.

      When they came for the Jews,
      I remained silent;
      I wasn't a Jew.

      When they came for me,
      there was no one left to speak out.

Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 7:40 AM, R Srinivasan <kamsri2005@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Anna Ha,teh brand ambassador for Gandhi Cap which Gandhi
> himself abandoned, and his branded T Shirts has in a sense
> torpedoed the constitution.
>

Dear Mr Srinivasan, the cap worn by Hazare and Gandhi/ Nehru
etc has been erroneously labelled as the "Gandhi" cap. It has
NOTHING to do with Gandhi. This was/ is the cap worn by the
common man, in rural areas throughout Maharashtra for quite a
few centuries. There is no branding to it, but being a dress
of the common man. It is in use commonly even today.

Could you explain this sentence "his branded T Shirts has in a
sense torpedoed the constitution". There are no "branded" T
shirts. Hazare's name is NOT Anna. "Anna" in Marathi means
Elder Brother ... It is a name given to him by his village.

>
> A case in the Supreme Court after the lokpal bill of ANNA is
> passed will establish this, Kiran Bedi would have been the
> first to arrest him and prevent his gathering if in power as
> police officer has joined the band wagon.
>

For what crime ?

>
> The indiscriminate use of the National Flag as if it is a
> party flag is in violation of the National Flag Act as it
> borders on disrespect.
>

There is a political party, using the tricolour as its symbol,
and flag. Not now, but for ages. Could something be done about
that first ? It is painful to see the tricolour lying all over
on roads and pavements, being soiled by dog litter after each
and every election major or minor. OTOH, flags being carried
by individuals becomes a case of "indiscriminate use" ?

>
> The ultimate sufferer will be the poor lower level
> bureaucrat who will be an easy target and cannot defend
> himself. under the popular lokpal Bill.
>

Let us wait and see. Lower level bureaucrats are by no means
"poor" as of now, neither are any type of bureaucrat for that
matter, and neither are any of the politicians. What is the
basis for this surmise ?

With regards,

Dr USM Bish
Bangalore

Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING

Dear Sh Srinivasan ji, people like you who advised the Govt as u r doing have all been grounded to dust. Kapil Sibal, Dr Abhishek Singhvi, Mr Chindram and so. They all had one thing in common, lawyers. Saner people like the PM, Pranab Mukherjee, Arun Jaitley, Sushma Swaraj nd so on have shown true statesmanship by acknowledging that yes it is the people who have sent us to serve them nd if we do not live up to the expectations, people would throw us out so badly that our political career will go I the dust any time.

Warm regards,
Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel


From: R Srinivasan <kamsri2005@yahoo.com>
Sender: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 07:40:34 +0530 (IST)
To: <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>
ReplyTo: humjanenge@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING

Anna Ha,teh bra nd ambassador  for Gandhi Cap which Gandhi himself abandoned,and his branded T Shirts has in a sense torpedoed the constitution.A case in the SupremeCourt after the lokpal bill of ANNA is passed will establish this,Kiran Bedi would have been the first to arrest him and prevent his gathering if in power as police officer has joined the band wagon .The indiscriminate use of the National Flag as if it is a party flag is in violation of the National Flag Act as it borders on disrespect.
The ultimate sufferer will be the poor lower level bureaucrat who will be an easy target and cannot defend himself. under the popular lokpal Bill
God Save the Country,
R.Srinivasan(Advocate)

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, jaiprakash  narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
To: humjanenge@googlegzare
Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 10:09 AM

very good,I am anna,u r anna,ab to sara desh hai Anna.

--- On Sat, 27/8/11, Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Parvez Jamasji <parvez1942@yahoo.com>
Subject: II Re: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
To: "humjanenge@googlegroups.com" <humjanenge@googlegroups.com>, "India Super Power YG" <makeindiasuperpower@yahoogroups.com>, "Yuva YG" <yuvajagruti@yahoogroups.com>, "NIRMAN YG" <NavNirman@yahoogroups.com>, "Dr Nutan Thakur Journo" <nutanthakurlko@gmail.com>, "Urvashi Sharma Journo" <rtimahilamanchup@gmail.com>, "Urvi Sukul Singh Journo" <usukulsingh@hotmail.com>, ""vasudha_dhingra" Journo" <vasudha_dhingra@yahoo.co.in>, "* Ground Report India Journo" <editors@groundreportindia.com>, "* Better India News Journo" <betterindianews@aol.com>, "Milap Choraria Journo" <milap_choraria@yahoo.com>, "Milap Choraria Journo" <milap_choraria@yahoo.com>, "Amitabh Thakur IPS Journo" <amitabhth@yahoo.com>, "Journo JAGRUT Nagrik Manch" <jnm.movement@gmail.com>, "Journo JAGRUT Nagrik Manch" <drvd_sharma@yahoo.co.in>, "*JUSTICE Kamleswar Nath * Lok Ayukta" <justicekn@gmail.com>, "Anna Hazzare * Activist" <annahazare1@gmail.com>, "Anna Hazzare * Activist" <bvjlokpal@gmail.com>
Cc: "Military Veterans Def" <MilitaryVeterans@yahoogroups.com>, "Ramesh Wg.Cdr." <mallik_ramesh@hotmail.com>, ""Mani Shankar Aiyar" Govt" <msaiyar@hotmail.com>, "Biman Mistry" <biman.mistry@gmail.com>, "Dr. Monika Chansoria Def" <monika194@yahoo.com>, "Parthasarathy C A *Def" <chetlurpartha@yahoo.com>, "Capt Reet Def" <reet@kamlafauji.in>, "Solders Sailors Airmen DEF" <soldier_league@hotmail.com>, "Sanjha Morcha Def" <sanjhamorcha2009@gmail.com>, "Cmde Ranjit Rai Def" <humjanege@googlegroup.com>, "Cmde Ranjit Rai Def" <humjanege@googlegroup.com>, "Ashok Def" <ashok2222001@yahoo.com>, "David de Figueiredo Wg. Cdr." <figifly@hotmail.com>, "Harpendra Singh Sekhon Wg. Cdr." <harrysekhon@hotmail.com>, "N R Bhatt Wg.Cdr." <nr_bhatt@yahoo.com>, "V. Rajpal Wg.Cdr." <vkrajpal2002@yahoo.co.in>, "Rohini Athavale" <athavale_rohini@yahoo.com>
Date: Saturday, 27 August, 2011, 8:37 AM

1. NO ONE denied MP & MLAs their "Exclusive" Right to make Rules & Laws.
IF they had done, WE wouldn't have this miserable Governance of the country.
 
2. Anna & or his team has NOT Usurped their rights.
 
3. By their DIS HONOURABLE TRACK RECORD, the parliamentarians have FORFEITED their right to be even be addressed as "Hon'able"
 
4. Anna is filling THE VACUME created by ABDICATION of Parliamentary duties by these "WORTHLESS" & the make a hue & cry of Democracy in Danger ?
 
CHORE KOTWAL KO DATE ? ? ?
 
5. LET US ALL STOP ADDRESSING THE CHORS & LOOTERS as Hon'able.
 
 
 
Thanks for your time.

Best Wishes.
 
Parvez Jamasji
http://twiter.com/parvezj                
                                                                                            
E      :   parvez1942@yahoo.com
        :   parvezjamasji@hotmail.com
 
Tel   : 91-22-2412 1656 > 9 am to 9 pm = GMT + 5 1/2 hrs.
Mob  : 91 - 9820813951 \ 98201 88926
Minoo Mansion, 799 J J Road, Dadar, Bombay - 400 014, India
 
From: Victor Cooper <victor99cooper@yahoo.com>
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Sent: Friday, 26 August 2011 12:57 PM
Subject: [HumJanenge] Mr. Rahul Gandhi - thats what we are also saYING
Dear Mr. Rahul Gandhi:
In your speech today in parliament you said that Janlokpal bill in itself will not remove corruption.

Thats what we are also saying.  Thats why in addition to LP bill,

-- Election reforms wherein anyone who is charge sheeted should be barred from standing for elections

-- Revoke the Single Point Directive

-- Make CBI independent

-- Increase the number of judges 3 or five-fold as per Law Commission recommendations of many years ago

-- Suitable amendments to Evidence Act, CrPC, CPC, etc. to balance the rights of the aggrieved V/s the rights of the accused

-- Police reforms as per the orders of SC many years ago

--Withdrawal of the principle King Can Do No Wrong

-- Enact specific Law of Torts against the wrongs of the state and its agents

-- Etc.

Regards
Victor