Monday, October 22, 2012

[HumJanenge] RE: [indiaagainstcorruption] Wrong perception

Dear Mr Ahuja
 
Pl appreciate that the Questions by persons ( whose  integrity is questionable) are only   diversionary tactics . The political parties have been challenging the IAC to come in Politics & then bring in the  Jan Lokpal Bill. And now when IAC  has decided to enter  the political arena , they are  using  all possible methods to malign it so that it is seen as a suspect & does not get public support . But there is a definite turmoil in the poltical circles with the support IAC is getting from the  Aam Aadmi .
 
Setting up of an independent panel by IAC , consisting of Judiciary , to enquire into alligations against its own members  is a  great step. 
Can the other political parties agree to set up such independent panels  to enquire into allegations against them? 
 
If there is no response to the Questions raised  by IAC first ,  IAC  should   not be asked to  answer either.  
 
Col Israel's suggestion that Anna should join the  Political Party of IAC, is a Wecome Suggestion. In fact other key members like  Justice Hegde , Kiran Bedi etc should also join back. It will give strength & credibility  to the Party. They all may be anti politics but we all  have to appreciate that these  "Andolans at JantrMantr & Ramleela Ground " are OK upto   awakening  the Public but those cannot  change the present corrupt system. The whole nation has already seen how the Politicians took Team Anna as well as Ramdev  for a ride with false promises . This change can & will  come from within the Parliament  , State Assemblies  &  Corporations  ONLY. And for that a Political Party is a must which will send  upright, honest, dedicated nationalists  to  these institutions. The way to these Temples is through politics only in our Democracy.
 
Lets all give them a whole hearted support
 
Regards
 
Prem
 
To start with if this political party by IAC  can win a sizeable number in forthcoming  Delhi Assembly elections, the stage will be set for  Parliament Elections . Since the Aam Admi is fed up of the present political parties there is every reason to believe that IAC will succeed. 

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From: theindarahuja@gmail.com
Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2012 02:34:26 +0530
To: sampadaway@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [indiaagainstcorruption] Wrong perception


The questions raised by Digvijai Singh should be answered point by point.
To say that he will answer only after those he accuses is escapist.
Indar Ahuja,Pune.

On Oct 21, 2012, at 12:16 PM, Bibek Anand <sampadaway@gmail.com> wrote:

Answers will clear the clouds and the sun may appear brighter thereafter !

I strongly suggest that Shri Arvind Kejriwal must give the point-wise answers to the posers !


A bold person never escapes and evades !

Bibek Kumar Anand
Convener "SAMPADA"


On Sat, Oct 20, 2012 at 10:25 PM, neeraj singla <nsingla@hotmail.com> wrote:
Hats off to people like Mr Kejriwal and his team at IAC

Remember, this is the last freedom fight and the adversary is worst than the British.

Do not be bothered by the distractions. You know when Armies move, they do not care about the dogs barking around, including the dog of His Master's Voice !!

best regards and good luck

Jai Hind

Neeraj Singla




Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 17:04:14 +0530
From: aswal.ps@gmail.com
To: info.indiaagainstcorruption@gmail.com
CC: usukulsingh@hotmail.com; indiaagainstcorruption@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [indiaagainstcorruption] Wrong perception

Dear 

I am in support of IAC and likely to be member of the political party when it comes in action. I prase Mr Kejariwal for his approch to eleminate the curruption of our country. Carry on Kejariwal we are with you.

Thank you

Capt (retd) Puran Singh Aswal


, 2012 at 1:17 PM, IAC INFO <info.indiaagainstcorruption@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Sir,

It was true that some emails from this ID were not being replied to.
IAC is engaged in great nation building tasks at present.

We personally assure that each and every factual email posted
to "indiaagainstcorruption@lists.riseup.net" will be replied within
24-48 hours to your satisfaction.

As the previous mailing list records were misplaced when the
list server was attacked, kindly again upload your network's /
chapter's / NGOs latest email lists in Excel or  .CSV format to
our (this) email again as soon as possible.

Ajay Dixit
National Publicity Campaign, IAC HQ

Email "info.indiaagainstcorruption@gmail.com"
WWW "https://lists.riseup.net/www/info/indiaagainstcorruption"

On 10/20/12, Urvi Sukul Singh <usukulsingh@hotmail.com> wrote:
> It is a wrong perception.But I have my own quarrel with this email id from
> which you have sent this email.I have never recd a reply to anything /any
> issue I have addressed here
> Regards
> Urvi Sukul Singh
>
>
> From: IAC INFO
> Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2012 9:49 AM
> To: humjanenge@googlegroups.com ; indiaagainstcorruption@lists.riseup.net
> Subject: [indiaagainstcorruption] Re: [HumJanenge] MAKE WILD ALLEGATIONS AND
> GET T V SPACE
>
>
> It is stated the contents of the email received below are defamatory in
> nature and tone requiring the author to apologise unconditionally and the
> said apology be also published on the information mailing list
> "indiaagainstcorruption@lists.riseup.net"
>
>
> On 10/19/12, "S.D. Sharma" <anonsharma@yahoo.com> wrote
>>
>> *Questions we must all ask today *
>>
>> Is India only a nation of *banias* ?
>> Is "India Against Corruption" a "*bania*" organisation ?
>>
>> *Gandhis, Bhushans, Kejriwals --- banias all*
>> Can these *bania* traders and money minded profiteering persons be
>> depended
>> to lead a violent freedom movement against imperialism ?
>>
>> *Can India trust them ?*
>> http://www.firstpost.com/india/can-we-trust-iac-activist-anjali-damanias-allegations-495940.html
>>
>> *What do we ask from them ?*
>> Raise the money to get us what we need to get the job done.
>>
>> *Should we feed 1000 sheep or feed 1 LION ?*
>>
>> *Profile of a LOIN, (a unique bania who became a LION)*
>>
>> *AMIR CHAND, MASTER:* b. 1869 at Delhi, son of Shri Hukam Chand Vaishya;
>> School teacher; Took active part in social reform and educational
>> activities, such as widow remarriage, temperance and spread of education.
>> Prominent worker in the Swadeshi Movement. Contact with the famous
>> revolutionary leader, Lala Har Dayal, brought him into the revolutionary
>> movement. Became leader of the Ghadar Party. Worked in close
>> colla­boration
>> with Rash Behari Bose and directed revolutionary activities in the whole
>> of
>> northern India. Arrested in February 1914 on the charge of conspiracy to
>> kill Lord Hardinge, the Viceroy of India, and also accused of of
>> complicity
>> in the Lahore Bomb Case. Known as the Delhi Conspiracy Case, it started
>> with the throwing of a bomb on Lord Hardinge while he was passing on an
>> elephant through Delhi's Chandni Chowk in State procession marking the
>> inauguration of Delhi as the Capital of India. Sentenced to death on
>> October 5, 1914, along with his three compatriots-­Avadh Bihari, Bal
>> Mokand
>> and Basant Kumar Biswas. Died on the gallows on May 8, 1915, in the Delhi
>> Central Jail.
>>
>> Source: *'Who's Who of Indian Martyrs'  published by HRD Ministry*
>>
>> *S D Sharma*
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 11:32 AM, login yahoogroups <
>> login.yahoogroups@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Jasvir Singhji
>>> Theres no use educating these people. As ex-IPS we both know the facts.
>>>
>>> Q: Who finances & controls Kejriwala, YPS, bhushans and medha patkar,  ?
>>> A: Mulayam singh and Subrato Rai "Sahara".
>>>
>>> Mr Aklesh yadhav may act he does to know "Who is Arvind Kejriwal ?"
>>>
>>> http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-10-07/lucknow/34305643_1_akhilesh-yadav-samajwadi-party-azam-khan
>>> but all persons present at the meeting burst into laughter because it
>>> is an open secret especially to honest officers who face their abuses
>>> on daily basis
>>>
>>> sahara group and SP want SP(Muslim)/BJP(bania/brahmin) combination in
>>> UP for 2013/14
>>>
>>> http://www.rediff.com/news/report/saharas-sensational-up-polls-survey-creates-ripples/20120126.htm
>>>
>>> Who benefits if land deals in Haryana (NCR-Gurgaon Manesar) come under
>>> cloud of suspicion by Vadhra expose ? obviously Uttar Pradesh for NCR
>>> deals in Noida and Greater Noida. Which UP developers benefit if DLF
>>> (which has hardly any dealing in UP) is blackened - JP, 3C, Ponty
>>> Chadha ....
>>>
>>> Who benefits if YPS exposes Lavassa hill project ? obviously Sahara
>>> who has his competing Amby Valley hill project
>>>
>>> Who benefits in UP if Salman Khurshid is exposed ? obviously SP/BJP
>>> axis in Uttar.Pradesh.
>>>
>>> Who is India's biggest private banker to politicians ?
>>> Who moves money to Kejriwal ?
>>> Whose TV network OB vans  moves Kejriwal from meeting to meeting ?
>>> Who has to repay 3000 crores with 15% interest and doesn't have it ?
>>> Who prints more indian money than RBI ?
>>>
>>> S D Sharma
>>>
>>> From: Jasvir Singh <jasvir70@gmail.com>
>>>
>>> > Dear Venkataraman,
>>> >                                   There is a great merit in your views
>>> and
>>> > it raises the big question. In fact very few have been talking about
>>> > exposing corruption in the media and private sectors. Media houses
>>> > being
>>> > controlled by corrupt corporate houses and politico-dynastic families
>>> > are
>>> > quietly playing the games and the so called civil society is crawling
>>> > to
>>> > get tv space at any cost. Some of the allegations may be correct too,
>>> > but
>>> > how will media exposure address the root causes especially when there
>>> > is
>>> > little empirical evidence to demonstrate that is something to be
>>> > further
>>> > debated.  Well said.
>>> >
>>>
>>> regards
>>> jasvir
>>>
>>
>


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