Wednesday, November 28, 2012

Re: [IAC++] Dear Arvind

From: Col Kalia  <sskalia@yahoo.com

Rules and regulation against corruption and clean governance are already in existence. The question is that of honest and strict implementation. Our political executives and bureaucracy at all levels, the custodians of governance, are not at all serious to enforce the law. The remedy, I feel, lay in awakening the masses and persuading the corporate through unions to refrain from giving bribe under all circumstances so to starve the corrupt. Also to bring upon sustained pressure on the corrupt politicians and bureaucrats through public disclosures followed by legal actions. This calls for an honest, vigorous and longdrawn nationwide campaign by apolitical social organisations as that of Shri Anna Hazare.  


--- On Wed, 11/28/12, jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

From: jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [IAC++] Dear Arvind
To: "iac@lists.riseup.net" <iac@lists.riseup.net>
Date: Wednesday, November 28, 2012, 12:34 PM

Yes, it is must n that's why there is need of citizen charter but even after that these people with thief like nature find loop holes to slip away, so we also need to tighten our judicial system as well.

From: Brig Ahuja <brig_ahuja@yahoo.co.in>
To: jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in>
Cc: "iac@lists.riseup.net" <iac@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2012 12:00 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC++] Dear Arvind

Bring accountability in governance , punish people found guilty  and than see the difference.Civic bodies are the worst in discharging their duties in providing the basic amenities to their citizens . The moment Commissioner of a Municipal Corporation is made accountable  ,there will be no pot holes on the roads , no depleted buildings & damaged drains  and above all basic amenities will be made available at  door step.

Bringing Accountability , responsibility  and transparency  in the governing system is the mantra to remove corruption.

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On Nov 26, 2012, at 9:21 PM, jaiprakash narain <coljpn@yahoo.co.in> wrote:

The only way to eradicate corruption from public life is to implement the rule of law in this country. implement the act of citizen charter, the lokpal bill n  RTI  in a effective manner. Though the main disease is the corruption in high places but it is multiplied by so many smaller diseases like poor education, unregulated poor welfare schemes, population n poor awareness of the people of its overall effect on the development of the nation. Our politicians n babus take full advantage of this weakness of ours.

 
From: Kris Dev <krisdev@gmail.com>
To: Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com>; Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
Cc: "iac@lists.riseup.net" <iac@lists.riseup.net>; Ravi Raj Vasudev <raviraj.vasudev@yahoo.com>; ADR <anil.bahl@svtank.com>; mailtopratik@gmail.com; Ashutosh Singh <pratap.ashutosh@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012 4:49 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC++] Dear Arvind

Dear all,

I too like what Sarbajit, Anil, Mahesh, Pratik and others have written.

We need to find a sure way to eliminate corruption and create a near level playing field for the 1.2 billion.

I think one sure way would be to demonetize currency in stages so that we remove Rs. 1000 and Rs. 500 currency notes from circulation to eliminate big corruption and fake currencies. The surrendered amounts can be updated in the respective bank accounts. Next phase Rs. 100 and Rs. 50 can be demonetized.

Instead of cash, Biometric Smart card linked to a money account as Debit Card can be issued for tracking all transactions.

What do others think of this idea?

Kris Dev.
ICT & e-Gov Consultant.
Manthan Award Winner for Biometric Tracking.


On 26 November 2012 08:56, Mahesh Khera <mkkhera@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear Mr Sarbajit,

Great to read Mr Anil's description. The nation is grappling with the most complex problem perpetrated for the last 65 years by the pol class and babudom where solution is not easy to find and actually much more difficult to implement. The only thing simple to practice and common to all 1.2 bn we the people is to brace our selves to exert unlimited pressure upon all governments to implement things like Jan Lokpal, NeGP and many other generally accepted political and governance reforms. Economy would grow in any case despite the government but freedom from most of the corruption so as to breathe clean air would need the might of the nation. Let there be no doubt, every citizen irrespective of caste, creed and community is an integral part of this transformation and all of us are doing service and even those who are leading such movements are actually demonstrating their leadership by service. 

Once again echoing Mr Anil Behl's golden advice.

Jai Hind.
 
With warm regards,

Col Mahesh Khera



From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: iac@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Monday, 26 November 2012 8:03 AM

Subject: Re: [IAC++] Dear Arvind

Dear Anil

Great to hear from you after all these years (35 yrs ?) Never knew that you were into this IAC type stuff (we probably got it from studying Moral Science). People like us can engineer a solution.

Sarbajit

On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 12:06 AM, Anil Bahl <anil.bahl@svtank.com> wrote:
Friends,
 
Intent is an important start. Talk is a follow up. But what is crucial is the WALK. Good people do what they say – they WALK THE TALK!
 
Most importantly, let us not be judgmental of anyone, especially when each one of us (including myself) does several wrong things every day (from telling white lies, to bribing a cop to bunking a red signal to losing our cool, to hatred for many)
 
Do not judge, for each one of us shall surely be judged when our time comes.
 
God bless and transform this Nation.
 
Anil



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