Friday, November 30, 2012

Re: [IAC++] Identity of Mr. Ash

@KrisDev
1) Many people prefer to keep their assets in tangible form
2) E-currency is not implemented anywhere in the world.
3) Bio-metrics ? first amend the Constitution
4) With inflation being what is is we need a 10,000 rupee note and fast.
5) Do you know how many hundreds of complaints are logged daily
about securities frauds in Demat accounts?
6) You have a typical babu attitude that a techno solution will make
all problems go away. Sorry, you have a vested interest in promoting
this technology.
7) Think like a hacker.
8) Is it a crime to possess a 1,000 rupee note ?
9) Have you thought through the Constitutional implications of being
a "socialist" state with what you propose.
10) Is it a crime to be "rich" ?
11) Do you trust all your money with US corporations like VISA and MASTERCARD
and with the Indian FinNet yet to be fully tested ?
12) Have you ever thought how it would be to be the victim of a cyber
crime and find all traces of your savings evaporated into cyber space
with no trace.

Sarbajit
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On 12/1/12, Vidyut Kale <wide.aware@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sounds brilliant, but how "hack-proof" is the tech? Till we can vouch
> for its being solid - you are replacing NATIONAL CURRENCY with it, I
> don't support. ATMs get spammed, there are vulnerabilities exposed in
> online bank transfers. There exist criminals who make careers hacking
> things like this (and most of the best ones are outside the country,
> including hotspot China - with whom we have differences of opinion and
> they have state sponsored hacking). This may mean to people's life's
> earnings being vulnerable to vanishing.
>
> Additionally, security measures may result in horrendous losses of privacy.
>
> The idea itself has merit, without doubt, but the application will be
> fraught with challenge, and till we can say with reasonable certainty
> that such a system can be secured and can be free from corruption
> (Ambani can afford to pay hackers if need be, for example), we will
> not be doing a responsible thing.
>
> My view.
>
> Vidyut
>
> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 10:28 AM, Kris Dev <krisdev@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Dear all,
>>
>> I have been communicating with IAC in the past. I asked them to advocate
>> banning of currency circulation in stages, first removing Rs. 1000 and Rs
>> 500 from circulation to weed out black money and fake currency. The
>> genuine
>> currency with citizens can be deposited in banks and their bank account
>> updated. Next rs 100 and rs 50 currency notes can be removed from
>> circulation and so on.
>>
>> Instead of liquid cash, Biometric Smart Card can be the medium of
>> transaction. This would leave an indelible audit trail. Most scams can be
>> eradicated. Elections can be made transparent. Are the anti-corruption
>> advocating NGOs for total transparency and accountability?
>>
>> What do others in this forum think?
>>
>> Kris Dev
>> Independent Anti-corruption Activist
>> Chennai
>>
>> --
>> "He/she should not do that which he/she knows to be wrong, and suffer the
>> consequence whatever it may be, this is the key to the use of
>> soul-force."
>>
>>
>> On 1 December 2012 09:56, M Baig <raaz.baig@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Dear Reddy
>>>
>>> Not everybody is now so convinced about honesty of Arvind Kejriwal and
>>> Manish Sisodia as you are.
>>>
>>> Not everybody in IAC is convinced about the decision to form a political
>>> party - AAP.
>>>
>>> Not everybody is satisfied with non-transparent and vague accounts which
>>> Arvind and Manish have given about funds collected in name of IAC
>>>
>>> Not everybody is convinced about how India Against Corruption
>>> "initiative"
>>> came about, called on Prime Minister and then some IAC "organisation"
>>> began
>>> corresponding with Delhi Police and MCD to book Jantar Mantar and Ram
>>> Lila
>>> grounds for Anna Hazare's fasts. These actions have caused great
>>> CRIMINAL
>>> LIABILITY for IAC which those persons cannot now run away from. Will Dr.
>>> Kiran Bedi former IPS take responsibility for these actions ?
>>>
>>> Haven't you been seeing the photos in Arvind ki Junngle mein Mangal
>>> series
>>> on "RealAamAadmiParty" blog . How can you still say that they are honest
>>> and
>>> sober people ? IAC does not want such persons.
>>>
>>> example
>>> https://lists.riseup.net/www/arc/iac/2012-11/msg00232.html
>>>
>>> Mohd Ali Baig
>>> Dist Coordinator IAC
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 9:43 AM, MVReddy wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As Sameer Banerjee rightly pointed out, allegations of this sort
>>>> against
>>>> Arvind Kesariwal and Sisodia by some of the IAC leaders (Who are all
>>>> these
>>>> people I dont know) like today by Mohd Ali Baig
>>>> Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday by Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/
>>>> Consultant For NGOs are hurting us all. I am still not a member of AAP.
>>>> But
>>>> people like me are in millions who admire Annaji, IAC and Arvind
>>>> Kesariwal.
>>>> Daily non-stop so many ill things are happening in our country. It is
>>>> really
>>>> sad that people like Mohd Ali Baig, Dist Coordinator IAC and yesterday
>>>> by
>>>> Raktim Mukhopadhyay, Advisor/ Consultant For NGOs are confusing public
>>>> this
>>>> way. Open your eyes, see today TOI headlines, see how CWG scam
>>>> associated
>>>> people are coming back in a big way. Why are you wasting your by wild
>>>> allegations energy against AAP. Let them work and you also work to have
>>>> synergistic effect.
>>>> Hope sense will prevail in these people.
>>>> Writing with anguish.
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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>
>
>
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> Vidyut Kale
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