Friday, December 14, 2012

RE: [IAC++] PRESS RELEASE: Anna Hazare booed/expelled by IAC workers in Bhubhaneshwar

Dt.14/12/12

Dear Shri S. Roy,
I have not been following msgs(IAC0 for about a week. Hence did not respond.
I am not denying AK,s role in dividing the movement or the finances received by his NGO from foreign sources. But I will not buy the argument that he is acting at the behest of foreign donors. 
2. For Anna Hazare, I only keep in view the progress from his small village to national arena. Let us also concede that one gets suspicious of people and their motives as one ages
3. I have a suspicion that some bogus members are creating confusion . May be I am wrong.
4. I have been associated with some NGOs who have done very good work .I hope you will keep the focus on ways and means to contain corruption through RTI and other means at your disposal.
Regd
JKGaur .


Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 17:01:46 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: iac@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC++] PRESS RELEASE: Anna Hazare booed/expelled by IAC workers in Bhubhaneshwar

Dear Gaur Sahib

Name / views of Arwind Gujriwal did not originate on IAC list, it was faithfully reproduced from the DECCAN HERALD website (permalink of which was given)
http://www.deccanherald.com/content/295852/anna-delhi-formulate-lokpal-campaign.html

Arvind did not "volunteer to leave IAC". He was EXPELLED for anti-movement activities. Do you deny that paradoxically Anna Hazare on 28 Sep 2012 also accused Arvind of splitting IAC, wrecking the anti-corruption campaign because of his political ambitions and confirmed the IAC movement has split due to politics with Arvind leaving IAC over 2 months back and that it was all about the massive money which was missing / unaccounted for.

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-09-29/india/34163324_1_fall-into-such-accusations-parties-and-communal-outfits-anna-hazare

IAC is not against Anna Hazare. IAC is against Anna's weak, cunning, divisive and suspicious nature by which he allows persons to get close to him, make statements on his behalf, which he immediately contradicts the next day.

Dr Sanyal is not a person to be trifled with, and Mr Hazare had better choose his friends carefully if he wishes to cross Dr Sanyal.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
Dt.6/12/12
Dear Mr. Gaba,
Ifully agree with you. It has become very difficult to know real from fake on this forum. If somebody sends a msg.as Arwind Gujriwal you can judge he is a fake. Arvind Kejrival having voluntarily given up use of IAC as platform has created the confusion and given an opportunity to attack him and Anna by levelling wild,unsubstantiated allegations. Some of them could be moles implanted by vested interest.It is best to ignore comments of such people.
Regds Gaur
 
Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2012 14:56:12 +0530
From: wide.aware@gmail.com

To: iac@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC++] PRESS RELEASE: Anna Hazare booed/expelled by IAC workers in Bhubhaneshwar

I think it is good that you can hire crowds for protests. India has a
lot of unemployment. Look at it as mass employment. I think political
parties should do more rallys and their prestige should be measured by
the crowds. :p

Additionally, a lot of local people find work with stage, decorations,
selling tea, coffee, and such. Also, I fail to see what is illegal
about hiring a crowd. Film shoots do it all the time.

My only objection is that I read on Twitter that they get Rs.100 +
biryani. If this is true, and not just a sarcastic remark, then I
think political parties making claims to uhold law and order, etc
should at least pay minimum wage.

Vidyut

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Dwarakanath <dwarakanathdm@gmail.com> wrote:
> Friends, In the last few years, when I was leading an agitation against the
> synthetic State supported work attributed "as a development", I have
> personal experience and information that certain pesons were ready to supply
> a large number of protesters who can join our bandwagon, on a certain
> payment and food per day basis. That was the first time that I could know
> that such things were possible. Earlier I was wondering how a large number
> of persons were attending programmes of political speach and activity and
> whether by such attending they were abandoning their day to day agricultural
> or other operations. The truth has dawned on me late. Now I do not
> wonder if a large number of people attending and do some activity that could
> be either legal or illegal. Certainly there is a motive force behind good
> or bad. When the situation goes out of hand into a law and order event, it
> is for the Police to anticipate such a situation by visible means and
> prevent escalations of it. On interrogation of some people who will be
> detained for creagting a law and order situation, it is possible to find out
> who and what is the motive force and submit an FIR both against the
> perpetrators and the abettors. If no action is taken but the law
> enforcement team was on the spot, it becomes obvious. If we are team to
> prevent corruption, education people against corruption, enable good
> governance, it is preferable not to make a lot of noise on non-supported or
> non-documented issues and divert persons with attempting to achieve their
> good goals. There is a say " if you point an accusing finger at any person
> there are four more fingers pointing at youself". My request is if you
> have doubtful ideas, do not point out fingers, if you have proof catch them
> with your hand, whomsoever it is and howesoever great they are. Regards and
> respects, dwarakanathdm
>
> , n Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 12:41 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 5/12/12
>> As the reports start to trickle in,the fault seems to lie with local
>> organisers who must have been infliterated by element opposed to Anna
>> Hazare.In futre he should be careful with such meets and photoshoots.It is
>> obviuos maganbhai is biased against Anna, but there is no need for him to be
>> abusive.He also seems to be a semi literate person. Can such a person do
>> justice to the post he holds in this forum
>> gaur
>> ________________________________
>> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2012 18:31:07 +0530
>> From: info.indiaagainstcorruption@gmail.com
>> To: iac@lists.riseup.net
>> Subject: Re: [IAC++] PRESS RELEASE: Anna Hazare booed/expelled by IAC
>> workers in Bhubhaneshwar
>>
>> Dear Maganbhai
>>
>> Was the proposal made on behalf of this company
>> http://www.mauryasoriginal.in
>>
>> These people are associated with iacbranding.org team who are all
>> handpicked Arvind persons from Lucknow-Kanpur belt close to Unnao MP.Annu
>> Tandon known for money power and Ambani connections which IAC had exposed.
>>
>> http://www.hindu.com/2009/04/30/stories
>> /2009043051891200.htm
>>
>> http://data.ndtv.com/images/p.pdf
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 4, 2012 at 12:50 PM, krishna oilmill
>> <krishnaoilmil05@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ajaybhai
>>
>> this propoosal is given us also by iac-brandng compny to be organise by
>> Maurya films. We have to give 2 lakh in advance deposit scheme and team Anna
>> assure we can make 25 lakh profit in just 2 months by Anna brandname.
>>
>> Maganbhai
>>
>>
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