Thursday, December 20, 2012

Re: [IAC++] UPA Govt Bill seeks to let 12-yr-olds have non-penetrative sex

Dear All,

In the recent past, we had come across so many cases of raping incidents.  The moments, it is reported, there have been hue and cry especially from Women Forums and this time, Hon. MPs have raised their voice.  There are so many reasons what led to recurring occurances of raping.  I can list out very many reasons why there are so  many cases of raping. So many know why it is happening.  But everybody is a standing spectator.  It is high time, the root causes of raping are identified and suitable action is taken to eradicate this recurring menace to the Society especially the Women. 

With Best Regards,
A.S.KALYANAM

--- On Thu, 20/12/12, Dr. PVS Rao <dr.pvsrao@gmail.com> wrote:

From: Dr. PVS Rao <dr.pvsrao@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [IAC++] UPA Govt Bill seeks to let 12-yr-olds have non-penetrative sex
To: iac@lists.riseup.net
Date: Thursday, 20 December, 2012, 7:38 PM

Like it or not, such gthings keep happening in our modern day environment.
Making it an offence will only put these youngsters open to blackmail and harassment by police and many others.
Important - consensualo or coersive, and age limit - 14 0r 16
--
Professor P.V.S. Rao
+91 9225518888

On 20 December 2012 11:36, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Babubhai

Your direct points about no CCing and BCC is very well absorbed by our members (and can be dispensed with henceforth).

I fail to see what is wrong with the Bill which seeks to make non-penetrative sex in certain EXCEPTIONAL circumstances NOT a criminal  offence. It is a very progressive legislation and must be understood in its historical context of the Indian Penal Code - where even premeditated murder by an 11 year old is not an offence.

I think you have not read the Times of India story contained within your link carefully. I am posting the direct link for your benefit and the benefit of people on this list who only scan your alarmist headlines.

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Bill-seeks-to-let-12-yr-olds-have-non-penetrative-sex/iplarticleshow/7400208.cms

It is also pertinent to mention that in 2011 the Govt (Law Ministry) wanted to retain 16 years as the age for consensual sex. It was some liberals in the National Commission for Protection of Child Rights group that drafted the alternate Bill to decriminalise sexual exploration by two children. and do the gradation of age down to 12 years.

The IAC list is a premier mailing list of India. We are already a premier activist group of the country. It is very important that we get our facts straight and well researched instead of circulating messages on behalf of other people.

Arvind Kejriwal does that, we dont !!

PS: I suppose Congratulations are in order for the people's of Amdavad, Gujarat and Himachal Pradesh

Sarbajit
National Convenor, IAC

On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Vaghela B D <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear All,

Dr Manmohan Singh can't even say "Sorry" to the Nation for making Delhi a "Rape City". 

While Australia apologised to Indian Doctor Haneef even over wrongful charges (https://t.co/Xn3qthQ2)

UPA Govt Bill 
seeks to let 12-yr-olds have non-penetrative sex
(http://goo.gl/8KAs4)

It is the Govt that wants to encourage crime against women.

I repeat - It is the Govt that wants to encourage crime against women.

Regards,

-- 
(Babubhai Vaghela)
C 202, Shrinandnagar V, Makarba Road Vejalpur, Ahmedabad - 380051
M -  94276 08632


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