Friday, January 11, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] REMINDER of GRIEVANCE: Re: URGENT: Maintaining records of the Hon'ble Committee for retrieval under Right to Information Act.

God bless you. I hope we leave our nation much better for future generations.

Rajaram Bojji  FIE., FNAE
+91 9885700007

On Jan 11, 2013 10:00 PM, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr Bojji

I'm so glad that the misunderstandings which occur over an impersonal medium like email get resolved when we express frankly. I think all our list members should know that you were MD of Konkan Railways which was a feat of tremendous engineering.

At the time of drafting our IAC charter we introspected on what our issues to focus on should be.

After placing primacy on defence of India/Armed Forces, we placed "Ensuring supremacy of qualified professionals/specialists in their field" as number 2.

There is this horrible culture in India of generalists (IAS, judges and stenographers) who interfere in every sphere of life.

As professionals - engineers, doctors, CAs, Masters of War, Architects,IT specialists, Railwaymen, Pilots etc. we should be masters in our own field instead of being dictated to by Arts graduates or lessers with diplomas in English from non-existent universities or bumped up stenographers.

I absolutely agree that attack and emotional violence are not the way forward, especially for the younger generation who ought to realise this (but who are genetically - and now electronically - programmed to rebel against their elders).

I also agree that RTI is another fraud. In fact our blog boldly says so [http://rti4citizens.blogspot.in/] in the following words

"The Right to Information Act 2005, is the biggest fraud inflicted upon on the citizens since the Nehru-Gandhi family."

BUT, knowing in advance that it is a fraud, it is still a wonderful tool to misuse. As I often say (and you can google search with "Sarbajit's first law")

"RTI Act is not to be used but misused"

Warmly

Sarbajit

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 10:07 PM, Rajaram Bojji <rajaram.bojji@gmail.com> wrote:

Mr Sarabjit ,

My comment about electronic trash is about our emails to J Verma!!!

It was not about this groups' capability!

That comment was against your mail to J Verma and some one saying we do not get any ack. From there.

So now hope misunderstanding removed.

In anger you said my views are that of a frustrated govt retiree.

I disagree. I did what all I wanted to do within the system but my work is internationally recognised. I am a fulfilled man., I am grateful to my country for the great opportunities provides to me.

I loved my work and I and my team thoroughly enjoyed our hard work. Seven years after retirement BBC just covered our work in UK recognising ,my contribution, seeking me out from US to come to Goa and record live on site!!

We are rich in intellectual capital.  We find ten solutions for every problem and have enough around, to find hundred problems for each solution.

I am not frustrated . But would like future generations to be better than me.

I did walk my talk. I did practice what I am recommending as the final solution .

Cab Minsters never came near my organisation over 7 years because my files are open on web.

I am trying to help. Simple effective logical method to prevent. Attack and emotional violence are not the means.

I can only do my best. I do not get emotionally taken in by the others accepting or rejecting but, willing to debate issues thoroughly.

I believe RTI is none of the frauds on our nation. I know how ministries sanitise the information.

Well all the best to you. My feeling is your email to J Verma is going in to
Electronic trash

Better send written snail mail too!

Hare Krishna!

Rajaram Bojji  FIE., FNAE
+91 9885700007

On Jan 10, 2013 9:45 PM, "Sarbajit Roy" <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Mr. Bojji

I had read with considerable interest your article in MoneyLife. Your viewpoint is that of an ex-Govt functionary frustrated by the system and who believes that all the ills afflicting India will be magically washed away by the silver bullet of publishing the entire file record for matters with large financial implications. You also passed certain remarks about RTI activists.

Where you see problems, others see opportunity. There are many  members of this list who know how to wield the Govt's own weapons (ie. their own rules and procedures). against them. You dont know what we have achieved because unlike most RTI activists who can only run to the media or into the arms of false prophets peddling hope, we operate silently and away from the media.

What we are publishing in this thread is only a very small example of the weapons in this IAC's armoury.

The Cassandras of dooms can scream we are useless, but in the end it is the disciplined plodders with their donkey work who get things achieved, and it is donkeys who are taken very seriously by the "system" because they know that the Kejriwal's and Bhushans are flashes in the pan who can only ejaculate prematurely and fade away whereas we old pros can bang away continuously all night long.

Sarbajit

On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Rajaram Bojji <rajaram.bojji@gmail.com> wrote:
Reminds me of Black Hole! Your emotional outbursts are diverted through electronic media , in to electronic trash, to be finally deleted after one year as per GoI regulations?





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