Saturday, February 9, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Chandra Prakash Trivedi

Dear Sir,
If one feels that cast barrier to be eliminated, in my opinion mention of surname/family name should be eliminated. Some people come forward to sue some body if addressed by their cast/ family name, but same people are at front to mention their surname/ family name if concessions/benefits are offered.
Let there be free supply of books, admission in colleges etc for all financially poor people and should not be cast based.
If Govt. wants to remove cast barrier, why in every requirement of individual details there are columns for cast/subcast etc which differentiate individual on cast basis.
Let the Govt. eliminate mention of cast, creed in every format need to be filled by applicant.

Pramod Raghunath
--- On Sat, 9/2/13, tadepalli triambakakishore <ltcolttkishore@gmail.com> wrote:

From: tadepalli triambakakishore <ltcolttkishore@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Chandra Prakash Trivedi
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Cc: "afridiamjad@hotmail.com" <afridiamjad@hotmail.com>, atcptrivedi@gmail.com
Date: Saturday, 9 February, 2013, 8:26 PM

Dear Mr Amjad Afridi,
Greetings.
DrCPTrivedi has accurately found the remedy for the malady. If,Hinduism is a way of life as oft repeated,and other faiths ,including worship of nature and its elements are also a way of life in their own right, there I feel lies the cause for discord. As a member of The Armed Forces(Corps of Engineers of IA) ,I have been singularly lucky to have the faith of my troops , Marathas/Sikhs/Moslems ie; Hindu/Sikh/Islam.
We had ardent  Christians amongst us officers ,of whom  most followed the MMG ie; Mandir/Masjid/Gurudwara happily and others discreetly showed reservation towards Sikhism and Islam. Probably because there was a sub conscious clash  of accepting Ek Onkar or Allah. 
I as a Hindu somehow never felt uncomfortable either in a Mosque or Gurudwara,probably because ,Hindus have several Gods and Two more  had no impact on psyche. Here a mention be made that The Communists  being Atheists  and so have no use for 'Faith' in religious sense ,follow 'Religiously' their brand of ' Ideology'.
 So much for way of life and religiosity and we see the Owaissis and Togadias  labouring  to raise the temperatures before elections by castigating each others 'Faiths'. 
Aam Aadmi's 'Collective Psyche'   and 'Mob Mentality' ,in my opinion is quite feeble ,may be because of being an aggregate of several individual psyches and hence naturally tends to be at the lowest  ' Calibre' .Such a mentality gets swayed giving room for 'Divide and Rule'.
That's where an honest 'State'  ought to come in and rein in the rabble rousers by refrigerating them somehow.
As aptly  indicated by you & Dr Trvedi, poverty has no caste and creed as is the affluency .
But the affected poor are preoccupied  with earning their  'Rozi Roti' and it is the Politicos who want 'Religion'. Hunger knows no religion.

One solution is to do away with all reservations and support to be extended uniformly for  all to be educated ,empowered to compete, regulate merit based higher education for research and pedagogy and ensure every body has a right to lively hood.  If one is not inclined to studies in early phase let him be empowered with suitable vocational trg. & the vocational trg should have scope for the late bloomers to evolve by doing away with the age related stipulations.Let the stratification of people occur purely on individual merit ,field of trg and physical ability. (We have a ready model in Armed Forces). Then a meritorious person firstly impacts his family, then his community, then his society and so The Nation.

Regards & Best Wishes
LtCol  retd TTKishore,Engineers.

On Saturday, February 9, 2013, Chandra Prakash Trivedi wrote:
Dear Amjadji,

Thanks and feel honor, the politics of divide and rule borrowed from the British Lord has ruined the country. The roots of corruption are in our constitution, and the people are innocent, as a citizen of democratic India, we are responsible for it. We have chosen the corrupt out of only sentiments without logic.

With regards

Dr.C.P.Trivedi

On 9 February 2013 01:31, Amjad Afridi <afridiamjad@hotmail.com> wrote:
C. P. Trivedi seems to have educated himself by reading the right kind of History and has a very evolved mind with Nationalist thoughts.

Instead of using jingoism and cliches, Trivedi kind of positive thoughts contribute to Nation Building.

While Politics is essential in the life of any nation, the aim of joining Politics and Public Life should not merely be 'greatest good of the greatest number....but the greatest good of all.'  

Why should any of us be left behind ?
Why should any of us be deprived of benefits we deserve by virtue of being Citizens of this Nation ?

The divisive politics of Mandal and Kamandal has already ruined the country.

A Chor Politician is the National Enemy No. 1....whether it is A. R. Antulay, Mayawati,Chautala, Coffin Chor Fernandes, Sharad Pawar, Suresh Kalmadi, Daku ka Sardar A. Raja or Choron ki Amma Jayalalitha.

I want to record my appreciation for Trivedi Ji's mail which is full of history and wisdom.
  




Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 16:45:43 +0530
From: atcptrivedi@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
CC: vaghelabd@yahoo.com; trident142@yahoo.co.in; priyadarshi101@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Why Hindus not setup new Nation?

Are you serious, and sure about Hindustan as name of India, prior to invaders attack on India. The people around the Sindhu have been named as Hindu by the invaders with their Farsi language S as H, the invaders have called it as Hindustan, and to differentiate between the Indians, they have non converted Indian as Hindu Kafir, no body was having dare to oppose rulers or suggest any thing, it became the custom to differentiate between Muslim and non Muslim of India as Hindu.

The British rulers have imposed Christianity over India, they have divided Indians on the basis of religion as Hindu, Muslim, Christian or Parsi, they were successful to rule over India with divide and rule policy. |India's spiritual freedom is unique, and above superstitious faith in one God, hence British conspiracy to divide Indians and India fully successful, After independence political parties have adopted the same as Vote bank policy to divide and rule, where Hindu or Muslim is name of Vote bank to rule over India.The unawareness, and ignorance is the cause of all round corruption for vote bank. The innocent public is calm and quiet as it is, as before the independence.

The name of Dharma or religion is for peace, our Dharma is of cooperative coexistence and peace, which has no name with spiritual freedom.
It is all due to the so called religious bifurcation of India and Indians that we are suffering from religious conversion, fear without national pride and integrity. The vote bank policy give it fuel.

The reality is that Hindu is not a religion and Quran do not support different state for converted, but the shrewd politics of British rulers, and political leader's lust to rule over India and Pakistan has divided the Man and Man.

With regards think for India with pride and honor for India, India has spiritual freedom from time immemorial, to act with ethics in life, and sacrifice for mother land is identity of Indian, India was divided in to small states and kings were not united, hence invaders have got the opportunity to rule over India, now public is ruler in democracy, only public awareness and national pride can save India.

With regards think for India


On 7 February 2013 10:26, Babubhai Vaghela <vaghelabd@yahoo.com> wrote:
Dear All, At times I wonder as to why Hindus not create and setup
altogather a new Nation called HINDUSTAN somewhere in this vast planet
Earth? With warm regards,

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