Saturday, March 30, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan in Sanjay Dutt's Defence !

Some people have the habit of never admitting reality. Did anybody ever agree or even confess what lead to the horrible Bombay riots.and the blasts that shattered Mumbai in end 1992 early 1993, following the destruction of the Babri Masjid.on December 6 1992.which killed 253 people and injured 713 more. not to talk about property worth thousands of crores destroyed.  The Srikrishna Commission report clearly indicted Shive Sena supremo Bal Thackrey and the then chief minister Manohar Joshi and Sena MP Madhukar Sarpotdar along with several other politicians and a long list of policemen for the horrific riots that killed 900 and injured 2036 more. The report says that "there was no doubt that the Shiv Sena and  Shiv Sainiks organised attacks on Muslims and their properties"And that Thakeray was the veteran general commanding his loyal Shiv Sainiks in this orchestrated sectarian violence.
                                                                
It has been 15 years since the Srikrishna Commission report , none of its suggestions have been implemented nor even one of those indicted were punished. The police and politicians had been rewarded and Bal Thackrey the prime architect of the orgy of violence, remained a respected leader and got a state funeral when he died. Congressmen who lead the 1984 Sikh riots in Delhi  have also not been punished. Narindra Modi who was once believed to be the architect of 2002 massacre of Muslims in Gujarat is readying to become Prime minister. Do we see any double standards anywhere.
 
Unequal justice delivery hurts, angers and alienates communities. A country which takes pride in its secular credentials and rule of law and impartial judiciary is worried that if foolish Sanjay Dutt is granted pardon, it will mean double standards in our justice delivery.and a collapse of our social order.  Devinder Thakur

From: Dr. Madhukar Ambekar <drmnambekar@yahoo.co.uk>
To: devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com
Cc: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net; fhrs_usa@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, 30 March 2013, 10:45
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan in Sanjay Dutt's Defence !

Some people have habit not to speak on the "facts" when provided and find some thing which is against Congress party culture. Basic fact is no Election for Congress Party President for the last nearly 15 years. It is still a "Democratic and Secular Decision". 

In UK people who are the target of "Racism" say Racism is "Overt and Covert" amongst the British. Could that be applied to Muslims in India? It is any one's own intellect and biases. 
Mohammed Ali Jinnah and Ali Brothers both were on the extreme ends of ideology initially BUT what happened at the end is evident in History. One does not need to be genius to understand it. Dr. Ambekar
On 29 Mar 2013, at 18:45, devinder.thakur@btopenworld.com wrote:

Ehsan Jaffry was not a terrorist or a Muslim Gooda but a respectable legislator.He was a permanent target because he belonged to the Congress party and the Congress partly is ideological hated and so are all the Congress leaders For reference purposes, read the list of enemies in the website of the Hindu-unity.org.

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Friday, 29 March 2013, 17:30
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Shanti Bhushan in Sanjay Dutt's Defence !

Dear Mr Kumar

You fail to mention the following:-

In 1969 rioting Hindu mobs burnt down his Ehsan Jafri's house. he possessed weapons since that time. These wapons saved his life on several occasions.

In 2002 after the Godhra incident, once again a mob attacked his house, this time a very large mob armed with knivces, swords, guns and gas cylinders to be used as improvised bombs blasted their way into his house.  4 hours of calling everywhere for help did not bring relief. The mob had full police support and computer printouts of voters lists. Recorded calls to the DGP of Police brought no assistance. In such cases of a State Sponsored elimination pogrom,  the minorities deserve to be armed with automatic weapons. If Jafri had these he would be alive today.

Sarbajit


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 8:50 PM, S kumar <kumar_8134@yahoo.com> wrote:
Possessing or using a firearm in riotous situations is dangerous and may cause death to the user of the weapon. Such situations call for calmness and tactfulness in dealing with the agitated mobs.
 
In 2002, Ehsan Jafri, a former MP from Gujarat faced a totally unknown riotous mob agitated over burning of 59 Hindu pilgrims in the Sleeper Coach a Godhra. Normally a peace loving man, Jaffri came out of the house and when the mob was shouting, instead of pacifying them, he took out his weapon and fired at the mob. The already agitated mob got into a frenzy an lynched him to death.
 
Unless absolutely necessary to protect oneself in situations of performing one's duties or extensive travels at untimely hours outside the populated areas, one should not carry the dangerous weapons and face situations where that might be used.

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 5:57 PM



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