Thursday, April 4, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] India Broke

Sarabjitji!!
 
I am an Indian first and last, loving my Country with Vandemataram and expecting to treat all Indians on equal footing in all aspects. Religion should be an individual's choice and the Govt. should not interfere with Religious beliefs and practices coming down hundreds of generations. Religion should not come on the streets or forced on others by threats and inducements. Practice Religion within home and shrines not on the streets. This is India.
 
2. Nobody propagates Hinduism. One is born a Hindu. But protect the Hindu-s from vandalism by Govt. and others looting temple income and assets without any restraint. Hinduism like Judaism is not a converting Religion. If someone has ben misguided in his path and strayed into other faiths and desires to return to his home, Hinduism welcomes but not forcefully.
 
3. Worshipping is a Private matter whether you go to shrines or go to Ramakrishna/ Vivekananda Ashrams and meditate like Kanyakumari or Pray to any God as you wish within four walls of your house. The ultimate aim is to attain mental peace whether you take part in rituals or not.
 
4. You are a new entrant in internet discussions which many like me have been interacting since over a decade and know many through net like Dr.Sarkar settled in U.S. from East Bengal or Sukla Sen the pessimist forwarding any matter denigrating Gujarat or Narendra Mody. Sadism has become a disease affecting many disgruntled souls in senility.
 
5. The hard work and progress of Gujarat has been due to the integrity and ingenuity with innovations by Gujarati-s who dominate Stock-markets all over India. Participating in Stock Trading is a Universal phenomenon be it Japan, HongKong, U.S. or UK. If you are unable to do it, do not blame the Gujarati-s who constitute the top Businessmen of India, be it Tata-s or Ambani-s or Adani-s or Ruia-s or Nirma-s and accounting for over 50% of the investments in India.
 
6. Mauritius became a source for unaccounted money from the day Indira Gandhi fleeing India, carrying several suitcases of cash when the Election results were declared in 1977 and landed in Trivandrum Airport with the booty and seen by many of her party, before emplaning for Mauritius and Ramgoolam helped her to hide the funds there. The Mauritius money is all flowing to Delhi and Haryana in DLF and Real Estate scams by Gandhi family. Gujarat does not get any such dirty money as UPA has been keen to pin down Mody through ED and CBI without success so far. Hasan Ali or Teja have not been active in Gujarat or shielded by the State.
 
7. History has repeated now with UPA using the same route to funnel back stashed funds abroad through Mauritius and Dubai as FDI or under P-Notes to make a quick kill in the Stock Market without identification and cash- Chiddu's ingenuity in legal gambling.
 
8. Mody's power does not depend on Coal. You are living in 20th.Century. Power is generated in large hydel projects and thermal stations using either fossil fuel or mostly LNG. The gas produced in Gujarat is mostly taken away by pipelines to UP and Delhi so much so Gujarat is starved of its own gas robbed by GAIL at Delhi with trumped up prices for its own gas. Gujarat has the World's largest Solar Power farms and Wind Power generators.
 
If there is no coal as it is the situation now, Gujarat could as well change over to fuel oil or gas as it is doing now.
 
9. How can rest of India cut off power as Gujarat is producing power enough to meet all requirements of the State 24x7 three phase the whole year, and has still surplus capacity of 5000MW already installed to meet future needs by Adani-s. In fact there are no black-outs or power cuts in Gujarat since Mody took over as CM
 
10. Perhaps the highest revenue for Centre is generated from Gujarati-s including Ambani-s by way of different categories of taxation and if the component is removed Central finances would collapse. The Centre does not reimburse even 10% of the legitimate amounts due from Centre, still Gujarat does not plead Centre for aid like Nitish Kumar or WB.
 
Have you seen any Gujarati worker in any of the other States like the Bihari-s and UP-ites or Oriya-s migrating for jobs to Gujarat?
 
Gujarat has no man pulled cycle rickshaws ubiquitous in all BIMARU States. A visit to Gujarat would reveal as if you are in a City totally different from other metro-s of India.
 
Narendra Mody has changed the face of Gujarat in 10 years and accept the facts that he still has no personal car but a scooter, a two bedroom house taken on loan and a maximum of Rs.50,000 in the banks.
 
11. >>Who the F*** are these people and why should I bother with them (or you) ? Are they Hindus ?>>
 
Do you belong to the slums to use such expletives uncalled for from an educated citizen?
From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 7:30 PM
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] India Broke

Dear Mr S.Kumar

Are you a Hindu that you are so concerned ?
I have publicly asked you to answer 2 simple questions, to which I am still awaiting  the answer:-

1) Are you a Hindu ? Yes or No.
2) If, yes, what is your God ? ______

Answer these then we shall see.

That I am a Hindu is not in doubt What is in doubt is if people like you are Hindus and if what you propagate is Hinduism !!
If you are a Hindu then I am definitely NOT a Hindu !.

I don't know any Sukla Sen or any Dr. Sarkar. Who the F*** are these people and why should I bother with them (or you) ? Are they Hindus ?

Insofar as Gujarat being a shining example of development is concerned, it is all done at the cost of other parts of India with hugely borrowed and leveraged funds coming in as "equity" (ie. hot money) via Mauritius and not as debt. If the stock market collapses today and is not bailed out repeatedly by rest of India, Gujarat will be a country of widows. The capital account problem is caused today by Gujaratis deserting the stock market in synchronised droves by dubious reports published from Canada and buying up real estate and gold.

If rest of India cuts off (cheap) coal, power and water to Gujarat then we shall see how Modi Shining story will work. If India withdraws its subsidised Central army / navy / airforce how long will "peace loving" Gujaratis survive against Pakistani Muslim hordes just waiting to rape Gujarat's daughters ?

Sarbajit

On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 6:40 PM, S kumar <kumar_8134@yahoo.com> wrote:
At last wisdom has dawned on Sarabjit now to deviate from the fissiparious and destructive anti-Hindu ideals propagated earlier.
 
Sukla Sen, Dr.Sarkar, Sarabjit all desire to be categorized as pessimists beating themselves and their own Society for its ills rather than promoting positive thinking and spell out clearly what is to be done.
 
Part of the Country like Gujarat have already proved that going with begging bowls to West are gone and they are coming to us for business. But UPA has proved a total disaster by several moves like signing one sided 123 in a flight in total secrecy without informing even the Cabinet, introducing multi-million programmes like NREGA or FODD SECURITY or others to fritter away the limited resources available, and these funds landing in several scams like 2G AND THE PM EVEN REFUSES TO APPEAR BEFORE A ONE SIDED PAC WITH CHACKO AS ITS HEAD- NOMINEE OF SONIA TO PREVENT TRUTH COMING OUT and so on.
 
If Raja, the main mega-scamster in 2G is not allowed to depose before the PAC, obviously UPA has skeletons in its cupboards, that might spill out undesirable details that might expose the real Congress and the multiple scams. The World has already got the details of the multimillions stashed abroad and has exposed only very small such account holders and no POlitician has been exposed.
 
Perhaps more details would come out and many Politicians are already shaky whether to stay on in this Country or flee to Safe havens and take refufe like Fuji Mori or others.

From: Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com>
To: indiaresists <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Sent: Thursday, April 4, 2013 6:04 PM
Subject: [IAC#RG] India Broke

Forget India Shining, India Rising, Incredible India and all those other glorious feelgood dreams of India as worlds' #2 superpower after China to which some IronMan or IronLadywill lead us.

The fact of the matter is that India is broke, ie Bharat is kadka.
http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/two-pms-a-countdown-to-financial-crisis/article4577727.ece?ref=sliderNews

The only way out is SEVERE AUSTERITY MEASURES and BELT TIGHTENING NOW (before it is too late and we turn into a basket case like Italy or Greece).

Important decisions which should be taken NOW - like borrowing from the World Bank, IMF when credit is STILL AVAILABLE and India is not yet a basket case have to be taken NOW.

Somebody of impeccable integrity must ensure that the money is not SQUANDERED AWAY on POPULIST schemes but spent on the vital INFRASTRUCTURE India needs so badly.

Sarbajit
National Convenor
India Against Corruption
 

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