Wednesday, May 15, 2013

RE: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation

The fact is there is no rule of law here. Almost all politicians who rule the country are not honest . So we have a bad police force. This encourages offering bribes to get things done quickly resulting in loss to our govt. and increased circulation of black money.

Outside our country like Singapore, US , UK, Middle east , the small time official has no scope to demand bribes !!.

We can certainly improve the present state of affairs by E governance and  stopping the state govt officials getting speed money for each and every act expected to be performed by them !! 

An average INDIAN is a good man !!!

 

From: indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net [mailto:indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net] On Behalf Of Gaur J K
Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 12:48 PM
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation

 

No Sir,
Your analysis is not correct. If Indians were corrupt and unethical by nature, how they become honest and ethical when they migrate for work whether in the harsh climate of Gulf and arabian countries, Europe or America. I hope you have travelled enough to know that it is through their hard work, intelligence and drive they bettwer their lives and yet remain loyal to the motherland. for you information the highest remittances in Foreign exchange are made. by Indians.
the system of governanace in those countries is not corrupt unlike India. It is the system that breeds corruption. Ask yourself the question- are you corrupt by nature or you are
forced to be corrupt- bribe officials at various levels.
Middle class is always the backbone of a nation. It is where the churning of ideas -good and bad takes place.
Please do not be too enamoured of the west. See the ills also prevailing in those societies.
Regds
JKGaur 
 


From: ashish-gyanpur@hotmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Date: Wed, 15 May 2013 09:06:45 +0530
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation

Dear Sir,

No matter how much we discuss and write on different forum. One of the most important thing in our life being Indian is that “we as Indians are corrupt and unethical to the core of our life”. If read our history as back as you can go you will find that we always kill and sacrifice our brothers/sisters not the enemies. The personal gain of some incompetent people/or person is the reason behind Ramayana or Mahabharat. This is same situation in our country at present time. Another important fact, if you see that any other western country follows the ethical values due to their middle class, who works and contribute towards society. Unfortunately, in India, we as middle class just Chatter, Chatter, Chatter in the form of preaching to others rather than following those principle in ourselves, that is the reason we see decline in out life day-by-day and hour-by-hour.

Ashish

 

From: Gaur J K

Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 12:13 PM

Subject: RE: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation

 

Dt.14/5/13
 
Dear Sir,
The offending MP will get away with it.
The first allegiance of muslims is only to their religion not to the country or constitution.
They use secularism as a shield when it suits them.
The speaker has taken a note of the incident but nothing beyound will happen either by the Parliament or the political party he belongs to.
The oath of office taken by the MPs, the ministers and others has remained a formality.
No questions have been raised if the conduct of oath takers remains true to the oath they have taken before entering upon office.
regds
JKGaur
 


Date: Tue, 14 May 2013 09:47:37 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: [IAC#RG] Insult to the nation

Sack MPs who don’t respect National Song
No matter what his reservations may have been against the National Song, by disdainfully walking out of Parliament when Vande Mataram was being played, BSP leader Shafiqur Rahman Barq has insulted the country. Such an affront to the nation, that too delivered inside the hallowed halls of Parliament — the sanctum sanctorum of democracy, cannot be tolerated. Lok Sabha Speaker Meira Kumar has taken note of the incident, but the matter must not be allowed to rest there. The offending MP's membership to the lower House must be cancelled and his political boss would do well to severely reprimand him. Not only has Mr Barq committed sacrilege, he has shown no remorse for his despicable behaviour. Instead, the little known MP from Moradabad has defended his actions in the name of ‘religious freedom’ and ‘secularism’. That the two have absolutely nothing to do with respecting one's motherland is clearly a concept that is alien to Mr Barq, who has argued that since rendering Vande Mataram is the equivalent of paying ‘homage to a Hindu idol’, he, as a true Muslim, cannot ‘worship' anyone else apart from Allah. The fallacious nature of his argument apart, the fact remains that Mr Barq had no business dragging his religious beliefs into Parliament, where he has come not as a representive of a religious community. Moreover, if he really felt so strongly about the National Song, he had other ways to register his concern. He could have, for instance, stood aside while the song was being played. But by walking out, Mr Barq sought cheap publicity through the use of his religious identity. But this is not the first time that Mr Barq has played the Muslim card; he had opposed the BSP’s ‘Jai Bhim’ slogan too.
This is also not the first time that Vande Mataram has been criticised for being ‘anti-Islamic’. This manufactured controversy goes back to the turbulent decades of the 1930s and 1940s when the country's emergent Muslim leadership was seeking to consolidate its own political base vis-à-vis that of the Congress. By that time, Vande Mataram — Bankim Chandra Chattopadhay's powerful paen to the motherland which had bound the national conscience, Hindus and Muslims alike, during the 1905 Bengal partition — was already being sung at the opening of all Congress sessions. However, when the party wanted to make the song the national anthem, some Muslim leaders objected. In 1937, a sub-committee that included Jawaharlal Nehru and Subhas Chandra Bose reviewed the song, and for the first time in the 1938 Haripura session, only the first two stanzas were played. Even that did little to placate the likes of Mohammad Ali Jinnah, who demanded the song be scrapped.
But while that did not happen, Vande Mataram has remained the favourite punching bag of communal leaders. In 2006, the song's centenary celebrations were hampered after some Muslims complained against a Union Government directive asking all schools to sing the song on September 7. A supine Congress leadership in New Delhi buckled before them, as it had earlier. The question now is: Will it be any different this time around or will Shafiqur Rahman Barq get away with his shocking irreverance?
http://www.dailypioneer.com/columnists/edit/insult-to-the-nation.html

 


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