Sunday, December 29, 2013

Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

Something Different from the topic being discussed, considering its new year end, its time to relax for a moment of introspection, fun, love and time spent with family.

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On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 7:40 PM, Ashok Ahuja <ashokahuja58@gmail.com> wrote:
Do not indulge into any freebies and reservations. These propagate incompetence and make people nikamma.

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On Dec 27, 2013, at 2:44 PM, kameswar elangbam <dreksingh@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

Congratulations to AAP leaders for forming Govt, however, governance to implement those promises are yet to be seen. As a citizen, I have parted my most valuable vote in consideration of what they assure me and it is my right to demand from them my due.

You may pass lokpal bill within 15 days
You may initiate proposal to lower electricity bills by 50% in 48 hours, or move to supply 750 liters of water to every household in 24 hours, etc
but practically could no do so, as it requires financial implications and very many procedures then, you throw the blame to CEA or Finance ministry or some agency for not considering, or some sort for all reasons, then smartly, like way they speak even today, we shall go to the people.

You can not run away now. Theirs leaders say openly, they have no alliance or understanding with the party, whose support they enjoy  to   form Govt, yet shamelesslessly declare no underdtanding, perhaps these leaders need refreshing vacabulary or new interpretation of the implications of they are indulging at present.

Whatever the case may be, I give damn to what they preach and do, but, I need those promises to be fullfilled, not words or nor  simple  initiatives or failures but real results, if not I must have the power to file FIR  for robing my valuable vote, which I have been keeping so dear for the last 5 years, for giving to an alternative political party,who could have done what they promise, unlike the present band of smart promisers, I am yet to wait, but, I shall not  agree to another flowery statement from them, we tried sincerely, but could not, so and so forth.

When faced with truth of inability to realise those impossible political promises, telling, we do not have full majority, hence, throw out the responsibility and go to people again are all vogus and stupid, you cannot fool public twice.

Dr Elangbam

On Dec 27, 2013 12:52 PM, "Gaur J K" <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
27/12/13
 
This forum has now become totally obsessed with AAP specially after 8/12/ when results were declared. Possibly no one expected the results-both main parties were dismissive of AAP,s performance.
Posts are mostly one liners-for or against AAP.
Corruption has taken a back seat. IAC is waiting for a new star to be born.Regds
 gaur

Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 08:34:38 +0530
From: ckssabu@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
CC: mukhtaralam2000@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] The beginning of the end for AAP

I am surprised at the way some of this educated mass is behaving. When AAP did not want form the Govt,  there was a large fraternity which ridiculed them for not accepting a challenge incl the BJP. Now that they are prepared to form the Govt after the people of Delhi have given their approval, albeit with Congress support, there is another section which is being equally critical. Is this educated mass  clear on what they really want?

I think AAP has played out a great Strategic and Tactical game. Congress was the natural enemy of both  BJP and AAP being the incumbent Govt. The common adage- "enemy's enemy is my friend"  dictum does not work here. Resultantly, AAP is adopting the next best option- form a Govt with the Congress outside support. No one is in doubt that, this is as adversarial a partnership as can be. It hopefully  only obviates the Presidential rule and a re-poll within six months. Everyone is also clear that it is an  union that may not last more than three months or even less. It will fall the moment AAP makes progress on some of it's manifesto. Congress will be  in a sticky position--they will be damned if the pull out and they will be damned if they stay.  
 
We have experimented  with family led Congress Inc and the BJP political parties for so many decades. If the summation of India's greatest problem today,  of lifting the 35% Indians from BPL, is dismissed by the Congress led UPA's PM in waiting as  "Poverty is a only state of mind" that can be over come, then thinking Indians must start worrying. 

Let us  therefore  give a try with AAP. They have promised a new  paradigm- What do we loose in trying it out? Even if they  can reduce the electricity tariff   by 30% and provide water supply to all those who do not get it today,  the relief to the Aam Admi will be immense. 

AAP has shown a resolve and conviction for pursuing an ethical conduct that has gone missing from Indian political life for long. Let us wish AAP the very best in their endeavors and hope that they succeed. The future of our children and indeed the Country is dependent on it. Paraphrasing what President  JFK Kennedy said so long ago, "Let us focus, on a more practical, more attainable integrity, based not on a sudden revolution in human nature but on a gradual evolution in our  institutions." 
You will agree, APP is attempting to do it.

Best Rgds
CKS Sabu


On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 10:24 AM, arun joshi <colarun.joshi@gmail.com> wrote:
I am totally confused as to why people are hesitant to experiment.
Did we not experiment with family led political parties for so many decades. (They joke with us with "adhi roti" "puri roti" try and gain sympathy by shedding crocodile tears - all acceptable to us)
Let us give a try with AAP. What do we loose?
Even if he can reduce the tariff on electricity by 20% and increase the water supply by 20% the relief that will percolate down to an ordinary citizen will be heartening.
It has been achieved elsewhere in the country so can it be done in Delhi.
Let us wish AAP the very best in their endeavor and prove that in India anything is possible.


On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 11:00 PM, Dr.Muhammad Mukhtar Alam <mukhtaralam2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
AAP or any party can not fight corruption unless they engage with solid moral foundations first . APP lied to people making posters referring to 15 years of corruption as if all the public money was looted and nothing was done. I love fight against corruption but it should have been done with honest acknowledgement of the work while promising that they would do better.
 
Muhammad Mukhtar Alam,Ph.D.
Managing online networks for Movement for Transition to Post Carbon Green India http://transitionurbanindia.ning.com  ,Ecostrategic Communicators for Carbon-Neutral Leisure  http://ecostrategiccommunicators.ning.com
and Champions of Indian Muslim Economic Development Agency http://imedaindia.ning.com
Papers and Presentations at http://slideshare.net/mukhtaralam
Tel:+9968345380


On Friday, 20 December 2013 11:52 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
By agreeing to form a Govt with Congress support, AAP has shown that they are as unprincipled and untrustworthy as everybody else.

RIP : AAP

Sarbajit
www.indiaagainstcorrupyion.org.in


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