Saturday, November 1, 2014

RE: [IAC#RG] CORRUPT POLITICIAN HAS THE LAST LAUGH AND JUDICIARY BECOME LAUGHING STOCK

See all that you need to understand is that India is in control of hundreds of Mafia and Judicial mafia is the biggest of them because it gives birth to the other Mafia. I do not know the Position in Karnataka but in U.P. there is a unwritten law in banks that they do not approve Loans to Advocates. Why? How many of your Lawyers give you any Receipts for the money you pay them? Now from these same set of deplorable Advocates you get your Judges. So do not be carried away by the shining black Robes worn by the Judges because under these Shiny Judges  it is just another crook engaged simply in promotion of his career  enjoying immunity from almost everything and pretending to dispense Justice although in India Justice is done in aly one case out of a thousand and that too only after the introduction of the Collegium system. THE JUDICIARY OF INDIA has always been and still Is GOVERNMENT's HAREM and the Judges are the GOVERNMENT's CONCUBINES Dancing free for the GOVERNMENT and for a price for the rich & powerful. The One in a Thousand Cases seemingly decided in Public Interest is only a trailer to play to the media while actually the Godown is rotting with millions of undecided and wrongly decided cases.
Robby Sharma
Kanpur


Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2014 08:57:30 +0530
From: gigijohn8263@googlemail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] CORRUPT POLITICIAN HAS THE LAST LAUGH AND JUDICIARY BECOME LAUGHING STOCK

Mr Mohanachandran appears to be the Devil's Advocate. He forgets that Jayalalita has been convicted by the Court and is NOT undertrial. His personal happiness at her release is what sycophancy is all about. In fact such sycophants are the stepping stones of corruption, as after scores of sycophants have glorified the criminals, they actually start believing that they are Gods themselves! As far as Amma is concerned she does not want to even see anyone who is not her sycophant!

On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 12:52 PM, P.Mohana Chandran <p.mohanachandran50@gmail.com> wrote:
Mrs.Indira Gandhi's election was set aside by Allahabad High Court for electoral malpractice.Justice Krishna Iyer,granted stay of the judgement.This facilitated Mrs Gandhi to get the Representation of Peoples' Act amended with retrospective effect so that spending money over and above the stipulated limit even by a recognised party which was an electoral malpractice ceased to be a malpractice resulting in the Allahabad High Court judgement getting reversed.We cannot rule out the possibility of the Prevention of Corruption Act getting amended excluding members of Legislatures from the clutches of the law.As Lalluji.Jayalalithaji and OmPrkash Choutalaji are presently not able to 'remote control' the Central Government, Prevention of Corruption Act may not be amended to save them.They may have to work out their remedy before the Appellate Courts.If a politician receives gifts and become a Billionaire with such gifts,he can not be proceeded under  Prevention of Corruption Act in view of the change in law brought in to save some Big  politicians who were able to remote control the then Government at the Centre.Till the accused persons (whether politician or otherwise) exhaust the last chance of Appeal,let us not treat them as criminal.In Tamilnadu there is objection to to keeping of Jayalalithaji's portraits in public offices.As per the existing guidelines portraits of some leaders like Gandhiji,Arinjar Anna and serving CM can be kept in public Offices.TN Government can amend the guidelines to include former CMs in the list so that the controversy can be avoided.Ofcourse Karunanidhiji's portrait too can be kept in such a situation.As a person born and living in Tamilnadu ,I am extremely happy that Jayalalithaji was allowed to comeout on bail.When she was in Jail,each day was a nightmare for us.
P.Mohana Chandran,



On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 4:42 AM, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
Even though there is no presumption of innocence after conviction so long as an appeal provided by law due to experience of coviction being found to be erroneous in many cases there is no presumption of guilt also and therefore grant of bail pending appeal has to be fairly liberal.

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On Oct 22, 2014, at 6:33 PM, ~Rájiv Pátěl <rpatel.fffie@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Kirity Roy
Get your facts clear. In the present case the ACCUSED person has been already tried and found GUILTY and therefore the person is no more an accused but a CONVICT. Unlike the parameters to be considered while granting bail to an accused person/s parameters to grant bail to a convicted person are different

On Tue, Oct 21, 2014 at 10:32 PM, Kirity Roy <kirityroy@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, I do agree with the understanding of Mr. Shanti Bhushan. 
Accused person in a criminal trial should not be treated as guilty. It is the duty of prosecution (State) to prove him / her guilty before the court. 
Are we going to establish "presumption of guilt" in he tune of police / state ?? Are we going deny "Right to be presumed innocent until proven guilty" ?? 

At the same time I must support strongly the main message of Mr. N S Venkataraman of Nandini Voice. 

On 21 October 2014 21:52, Shanti Bhushan <shantibhush@gmail.com> wrote:
I do not see any objection to the grant of bail pending appeal provided it is conditional on the appeal being quickly heard and decided.

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