Saturday, October 17, 2015

RE:[IAC#RG]

17/1015

Dear S. Roy/Prof. Yadav

I have gone through the three articles mentioned above.
 I find the name of Dr. Kalam mentioned in only where he expressed his happiness in Pokhran11  tests conducted in 1998 when Atal Bihari Vajpayi was the Prime Minister and Dr. Advisor to the Defence Minister. What is derogatory you find in this?
The other two articles relation to the controvery about H-bomb testing. Here the main players were BARC and DAE. He was not associated with them. His association was with DRDO. Secondly he wanted to retire in 1992 on attaining the age of superanuation, but the Congress Govt who was in power did not release him and appointed him advisor to defence Minister. Who was the defence Minister in 1992? and What is the role of an advisor?
As I understand he was to advise the Defence Minister in weaponising the missiles like Prithvi, trisul,Nag, Akhash and Agni which were developed for Military appilcation. Are you faulting Dr. Kalam for developing these misiles or their application for defence forces?
About the Tipu Sutan part, you mentioned, relates to a Portrait he saw in one of US Defence establishment having beenexhibited. Perhaps it must have been smuggled out. It showed the Army of Tipu Sultan using rockets of a very elentary nature. The depicted the concept of rocketary during his time. This incident has also been given in his life story. DCoes that make him a Tipu Sultan aspirant? I personally would say Tipu Sultan gave the last resistance to Britishers in their conquest of the South.
As an Engineering you are more familiar with technical teminology or jargon relating to Solid/Luquid fuel for boosting motors
 and india,s inability to move from solid to liquid and the USSR help in giving impetus to develop it and the US refusal .
In fact US opposition to conducting test is well known.
In Short Dr. Kalam,s life is an open book- divided in neat compartments- his struggle in getting educated against heavy odds, his working life as AGovt. servant rising from the lowest rung of scientific community to the highest pinnacle,
his love for the children and igniting their mind for excellence, Visionary, Author, Peoples President.Truly a Bharat Ratna.
Thanks for bearing with me on this subject.
Regds
JKGaur




Date: Fri, 16 Oct 2015 01:14:16 +0530
From: sroy.mb@gmail.com
To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
Subject: Re:[IAC#RG]

Dear Prof Yadav / Mr. J.K. Gaur

Concerning "Dr." APJ Kalam.

For eg. he was actively involved in the expensive "H bomb" fraud
played on our nation

http://www.business-standard.com/article/opinion/k-santhanam-ashok-parthasarathi-pokhran-ii-an-h-bomb-disaster-109121100016_1.html

http://www.ibnlive.com/news/india/apj-abdul-kalam-the-man-behind-pokhran-2-and-indias-nuclear-weaponisation-1026640.html

http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/op-ed/pokhranii-thermonuclear-test-a-failure/article21311.ece

And after that we can revisit the 1994 ISRO spy scandal which scuttled
India's Liquid fuel rocket motors (APJK's team was instead promoting
the solid fuel version as APJK believed he was the reincarnation of
Tipu Sultan).

Sarbajit

On 10/15/15, Pramod Yadava <pkyadava1953@gmail.com> wrote:
> My Dear and Esteemed Fellow Indian Citizens:
>
> I think we must stop playing games of convenience while attributing
> responsibility to groups and individuals. In no situation should we
> encroach upon individual's sovereignty within a larger sovereign state. As
> to the contribution of Dr Kalam to building up Indian Defense system there
> cannot be much argument and those indulging in it are again playing some
> game by their convenience. Ultra-structure visualization does not
> necessarily bring out the most pleasing view of an object though it
> definitely produces a lot of important information. Many of the things on
> news circuits today and the way spokespersons are found accusing others and
> defending themselves, makes one wonder whether we are living in a civilized
> world. Descendants of all the civilizations can be proud of something or
> else in their past but should they overlook contribution of others? We in
> India may find a lot more than many to mention about our glorious past
> simply because our ancestors inhabited such a fertile and naturally blessed
> land. That does not entitle us to look down upon others and be undluly
> proud of ourselves. We cannot do that without undoing our own guiding
> principles like "vasudhaiv kutumbakam".
>
> May good sense prevail
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 12:05 PM, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> 14/1015
>>
>> I would say alternatives would be Azam or owaisi on one side and Sania
>> Mirza on other.Why Not? Even Dawood is not hated by majority. It has to
>> be
>> a politician at the one extreme and Dawood till 1993 had nothing against
>> him except a small time don dispensing on the spot justice for a
>> consideration.
>> I don,t agree with one bit of what you have accused Dr. Kalam of. When
>> where does the US influence come? During the 3 months he spent in U.S
>> when
>> sent by the Govt. in one of their institution. In fact he came to realise
>> that nly strength gets respect in Int. relations and tried all the time
>> India be strong , technologically advanced and self sufficient in defense
>> needs.
>> After reading his books- Wings of Fire and India 2020 outlining his
>> vision
>> for the country, I am convinced that there is nothing you can accuse him
>> of?
>> Where does AAp come in the picture?
>> Who conferred Padma Bhusan and Padma Vibhusan on him-congress party under
>> Indira/Rajive Gandhi. So how does he become anti congress?
>> If BJP made him the President, not as a politician or party man as
>> Congress had been doing all-along how does it diminish is stature?
>> It is all by way of digression, as the real issue is communal
>> disharmony,unprovoked violence
>> on religious issues and how to deal with it and prevent recurrence of
>> such
>> events as happened in Dadri.The real culprits are the politicians who fan
>> the communal feeling for vote bank politics through the fanatic fringe.
>> State Govt. of UP and Bihar where such incidents occur from time to time
>> since independence should take the responsibility as law and order and
>> prevention of crimes is a state subject.
>> REgds
>> JKGaur

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