Saturday, September 3, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] Certain libels by your party spokesperson made in connection with ex-Minister Sandeep Kumar

Respected Sarbajit Roy Ji,
                                       You are amazing in all that you say. But the hilarity + the tragedy of your communication to the AAP /CM of our Delhi State, takes the cake, indeed.

Truly Sire, what is happening in our land is most unthinkable. i allude to the disturbances in 8 cities of Haryana last February, but  till date not much action by the untrained CM of our State ! And now followed through by the CBI raids on to the estates of the previous CM, whom he suceeded!

As also the earlier massive downpours of a few hours each, and the NCR was literally an area afloat !

Wonder what the future is going to be like, as i feel justified in raising the said query, running my 83 rd currently.

Best regards and Peace.
dev chopra in gurgaon
*** 

On 3 September 2016 at 22:28, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Kind Attn: Shri Arvind Kejriwal,

Dear Chief Minister

This is further to my previous email.

Your party spokesperson Shri Ashutosh Gupta was very quick yesterday to lecture the whole world yesterday on why private consensual sexual congress between Mr.A and Ms.B is none of our business.

Today somebody claiming to be the Ms.B in the objectionable videos has alleged your hand-picked MLA and then Minister for Women's Development, ie. Sandeep Kumar, misused his ministerial office, spiked her drink, and raped her. Sandeep Kumar has been arrested.

In these circumstances, it is not clear to India Against Corruption what you are doing in Rome along with Satyendar Jain attending a non-event like Mother Teresa's birthday party when you should be in Delhi verifying if the victim's statement are genuine or not.

As it seems to us that there is likely to be an arrest warrant waiting for you and Jain (collective cabinet responsibility) when you return, IAC suggests that you do a Vijay Mallya act and seek political asylum in U.S.A to run the Aam Aadmi Party from U.S.A.

As a gesture of IAC's goodwill to assist you in this endeavour, we have even recovered the domain name http://www.aamaadmiparty.us (it was with a cybersquatter) for your use over there to run for Presidentship of your motherland USA about 4 years from now. (You will certainly be less crazy than their current Presidential candidates).

PS: Hindustan Republican Army is still awaiting your URGENT clarification / explanation on the great feminist / nationalist Sarala Devi Chaudhurani and why your partymen are repeatedly defaming her memory by linking her pure name with those of perverted sex-crazed traitors like Gandu and Nehru to save your Sandeep Kumar's 'gaand'.

Sincerely

Sarbajit
on behalf of the entire
(i) India Against Corruption and
(ii) proposed Aam Aadmi Party (USA) movements

On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Chief Minister

Sub: Request for urgent clarification about certain libels made by your party spokesperson in connection with ex-Minister Sandeep Kumar's dimissal

I must inform you that the entire high command of Hindustan Republican Army (HRA) is extremely upset with the insensitive, illiterate and uncouth comments of your AAP spokesman Ashutosh made in a NDTV blog post titled as "The Sex Was Consensual, Private Act. Why AAP Punished Its Man" published: September 01, 2016 20:27 IST and accessible at

http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/the-sex-was-consensual-private-act-why-aap-punished-its-man-1453374

In a melange of bizarre assertations defending the indefensible sexual escapades of your AAP minister, your party spokesman has alleged as follows:

"Indian history is full of examples of our leaders and heroes who had lived with their desires beyond social boundaries. Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru's reported affairs with many female colleagues were juicy gossip but it didn't spoil his political career. His relationship with Edwina Mountbatten is widely discussed. The entire world knew about it. Their affections continued till Pt. Nehru's last breath. Was it a sin? History is also witness to the fact that top leaders of the Congress in 1910s were worried about Gandhiji's relationship with Sarla Chaudhary, who was distantly related to Rabindra Nath Tagore. Gandhi Ji had confessed that Sarla was his spiritual wife. Kasturba Gandhi was very disturbed. C Rajagopalchari and other senior leaders of the party had to intervene. They persuaded, pressured, cajoled Gandhi-ji to leave Sarla. Gandhiji in his later days slept naked with his two nieces to experiment with celibacy. Pandit Nehru had told him not to do so as the country would rise against him but Gandhi-ji did not budge."

Can you please clarify for the benefit of HRA movement your party spokeperson's very recent writings besmirching HRA's icon Sarala Devi Chaudhurani

a)  What if any, as per AAP spoekesperson, was the exact "relationship" Gandhi (HRA will not dignify this turd on India's history by affixing a suffix "ji" to his surname) had with this "Sarla Chaudhary" ?

b) How exactly was Sarala Devi Chaudhurani "distantly related" to Rabindranath Tagore ? Was she not his niece ?

c) Which history records as a "fact" that there was anything remotely sexual in this alleged relationship ? Do you seriously count the alleged historian grandson (who incidentally is also a member of your party) of the homosexual traitor Gandhi as a credible source for this canard ? Can you show that Gandhi was in India in 1910 ?

d) What is the purpose of the AAP's gutter innunedo by coupling of references to Gandhi sleeping naked with his nieces made just after the unsullied name of Sarala Devi Chaudurani ? Are you, and your fellow RSS dropouts for whom Mohan Gandoo is the new symbol, so under-educated and unaware that in 1910 (Ashutosh's date not mine) the "top Congress leadership" was actually disturbed with Gandhi's German homosexual Jewish lover Kaltenbach who had gifted a 1,000 acre farm in South Africa to Gandhi so the two top-n-bottom "soulmates" (Gandhi's words not mine) could live together forever ? In 1910 Kasturba Gandhi was actually disturbed about the homo-erotic Gandoo dalliances with Kaltenbach, which is something which the mostly homosexual top brass of RSS (and AAP ??) wish to cover up concerning their darling icon.

e) Therefore, Hindustan Republican Army seeks from these 2 AAP defamers, ie Shri Ashutosh Gupta, and Shri Rajmohan Gandhi the complete explanation why some AAP persons have defamed and sullied the pure name of a chaste Brahmin lady from Punjab of one of the leading Mohyal (Brahmin) and Arya Samaji families of Punjab by repeating certain canards concocted by some members of your party.

PS: Since the videos circulating of your ex-Minister show that whereas the sexual congress bwetween the players was conceivably as real as that between the AAP and Congress in those 49 days, the women involved definitely then did not give consent to either (a) the secret recording of these objectionable adulterous acts by your party MLA, or (b) the publishing of these videos by your Minister.

I reiterate that if you are actually as honest as you publicly proclaim yourself to be, you will get Sandeep Kumar prosecuted for his criminal offences under Information Technology Act as expeditously as you dismissed him.

sincerely

Sarbajit Roy


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Re: [IAC#RG] Certain libels by your party spokesperson made in connection with ex-Minister Sandeep Kumar

Kind Attn: Shri Arvind Kejriwal,

Dear Chief Minister

This is further to my previous email.

Your party spokesperson Shri Ashutosh Gupta was very quick yesterday to lecture the whole world yesterday on why private consensual sexual congress between Mr.A and Ms.B is none of our business.

Today somebody claiming to be the Ms.B in the objectionable videos has alleged your hand-picked MLA and then Minister for Women's Development, ie. Sandeep Kumar, misused his ministerial office, spiked her drink, and raped her. Sandeep Kumar has been arrested.

In these circumstances, it is not clear to India Against Corruption what you are doing in Rome along with Satyendar Jain attending a non-event like Mother Teresa's birthday party when you should be in Delhi verifying if the victim's statement are genuine or not.

As it seems to us that there is likely to be an arrest warrant waiting for you and Jain (collective cabinet responsibility) when you return, IAC suggests that you do a Vijay Mallya act and seek political asylum in U.S.A to run the Aam Aadmi Party from U.S.A.

As a gesture of IAC's goodwill to assist you in this endeavour, we have even recovered the domain name http://www.aamaadmiparty.us (it was with a cybersquatter) for your use over there to run for Presidentship of your motherland USA about 4 years from now. (You will certainly be less crazy than their current Presidential candidates).

PS: Hindustan Republican Army is still awaiting your URGENT clarification / explanation on the great feminist / nationalist Sarala Devi Chaudhurani and why your partymen are repeatedly defaming her memory by linking her pure name with those of perverted sex-crazed traitors like Gandu and Nehru to save your Sandeep Kumar's 'gaand'.

Sincerely

Sarbajit
on behalf of the entire
(i) India Against Corruption and
(ii) proposed Aam Aadmi Party (USA) movements

On Sat, Sep 3, 2016 at 1:27 AM, Sarbajit Roy <sroy.mb@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Chief Minister

Sub: Request for urgent clarification about certain libels made by your party spokesperson in connection with ex-Minister Sandeep Kumar's dimissal

I must inform you that the entire high command of Hindustan Republican Army (HRA) is extremely upset with the insensitive, illiterate and uncouth comments of your AAP spokesman Ashutosh made in a NDTV blog post titled as "The Sex Was Consensual, Private Act. Why AAP Punished Its Man" published: September 01, 2016 20:27 IST and accessible at

http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/the-sex-was-consensual-private-act-why-aap-punished-its-man-1453374

In a melange of bizarre assertations defending the indefensible sexual escapades of your AAP minister, your party spokesman has alleged as follows:

"Indian history is full of examples of our leaders and heroes who had lived with their desires beyond social boundaries. Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru's reported affairs with many female colleagues were juicy gossip but it didn't spoil his political career. His relationship with Edwina Mountbatten is widely discussed. The entire world knew about it. Their affections continued till Pt. Nehru's last breath. Was it a sin? History is also witness to the fact that top leaders of the Congress in 1910s were worried about Gandhiji's relationship with Sarla Chaudhary, who was distantly related to Rabindra Nath Tagore. Gandhi Ji had confessed that Sarla was his spiritual wife. Kasturba Gandhi was very disturbed. C Rajagopalchari and other senior leaders of the party had to intervene. They persuaded, pressured, cajoled Gandhi-ji to leave Sarla. Gandhiji in his later days slept naked with his two nieces to experiment with celibacy. Pandit Nehru had told him not to do so as the country would rise against him but Gandhi-ji did not budge."

Can you please clarify for the benefit of HRA movement your party spokeperson's very recent writings besmirching HRA's icon Sarala Devi Chaudhurani

a)  What if any, as per AAP spoekesperson, was the exact "relationship" Gandhi (HRA will not dignify this turd on India's history by affixing a suffix "ji" to his surname) had with this "Sarla Chaudhary" ?

b) How exactly was Sarala Devi Chaudhurani "distantly related" to Rabindranath Tagore ? Was she not his niece ?

c) Which history records as a "fact" that there was anything remotely sexual in this alleged relationship ? Do you seriously count the alleged historian grandson (who incidentally is also a member of your party) of the homosexual traitor Gandhi as a credible source for this canard ? Can you show that Gandhi was in India in 1910 ?

d) What is the purpose of the AAP's gutter innunedo by coupling of references to Gandhi sleeping naked with his nieces made just after the unsullied name of Sarala Devi Chaudurani ? Are you, and your fellow RSS dropouts for whom Mohan Gandoo is the new symbol, so under-educated and unaware that in 1910 (Ashutosh's date not mine) the "top Congress leadership" was actually disturbed with Gandhi's German homosexual Jewish lover Kaltenbach who had gifted a 1,000 acre farm in South Africa to Gandhi so the two top-n-bottom "soulmates" (Gandhi's words not mine) could live together forever ? In 1910 Kasturba Gandhi was actually disturbed about the homo-erotic Gandoo dalliances with Kaltenbach, which is something which the mostly homosexual top brass of RSS (and AAP ??) wish to cover up concerning their darling icon.

e) Therefore, Hindustan Republican Army seeks from these 2 AAP defamers, ie Shri Ashutosh Gupta, and Shri Rajmohan Gandhi the complete explanation why some AAP persons have defamed and sullied the pure name of a chaste Brahmin lady from Punjab of one of the leading Mohyal (Brahmin) and Arya Samaji families of Punjab by repeating certain canards concocted by some members of your party.

PS: Since the videos circulating of your ex-Minister show that whereas the sexual congress bwetween the players was conceivably as real as that between the AAP and Congress in those 49 days, the women involved definitely then did not give consent to either (a) the secret recording of these objectionable adulterous acts by your party MLA, or (b) the publishing of these videos by your Minister.

I reiterate that if you are actually as honest as you publicly proclaim yourself to be, you will get Sandeep Kumar prosecuted for his criminal offences under Information Technology Act as expeditously as you dismissed him.

sincerely

Sarbajit Roy

Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS OBSERVATIONS

Dear All

The latest revelations by Justice Chellameshwar of Supreme Court are really shocking. His statement indicates that the collegium fixes its matches by practising opacity! That may be tolerated in cricket, but unpardonable at the level of the Apex Court in the matter of appointing judges. On top of it the Chief Justice had the boldness (I do not have the audacity to use a stronger word) to attack the PM openly and malign him on the Independence day. It would have been perhaps not so bad  if he had said something against the Government generally even on the National Independence day, but his unprovoked personal aggression against the elected PM and his I. Day speech has brought down the dignity of the Apex Court.

 Modi never criticized the Chief Justice personally on any public platform by way of retaliation. Even after the recent tear jerker public episode involving the CJI  Modi's response was very conciliatory. Even granting that one's heart bleeds for India and its citizens, he should not wear it on his sleeves especially when there is a conflict of interest. 

Normally we does not expect to hear very strong expressions from the judges when any hearings take place. Judges are expected to keep their counsel, ask firm questions, seek clarifications and show their skills by writing really wise judgments of great quality and permanence instead of becoming visible in newspaper headlines every other day. That act should be left to politicians who need legitimate publicity to get reelected. . Whatever their flaws, politicians are accountable to the electorate. Judges are neither elected nor accountable or answerable to anybody and that is the truth that they themselves appreciate. Let them keep calm, air no dramatic opinions in courts or outside, seek no publicity, be known for integrity, and deliver speedy judgments of quality. If possible let them also live a simple and detached life to inspire our country.
 
With regards 
Prof N.Natarajan


On Saturday, 3 September 2016 10:21 AM, globaltrustparty <globaltrustparty@gmail.com> wrote:


Dear Discerning countrymen,
Out of 16 former CJI. 8 were corrupt I.e. No.1.
I was in PHD House where ex. Chief Election Commissioner was Chief guest.
When floor was opened my questions were.
Do we have true democracy/hypocrisy /damenocracy ?.
I want your answer in one word.
His answer was true democracy.
So we have such CEC in India.
Candidly yours
SURJANA S MEHTA
On Sep 3, 2016 8:31 AM, "Lalit Bansal" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
I agree with Mr. Malhotra. It is sad, where and how u will start educating voters? Pl just look at us election. How trump got nomination? A rich and most judicious country like us and its voters are so much divided and confused, more than half of them do not like any of two?
Lalit bansal journalist

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> On Sep 2, 2016, at 01:36, ravindra malhotra (via indiaresists Mailing List) <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net > wrote:
>
> Indians can become free only by using their vote judiciously and by not voting for criminals, corrupt, hypocrites and self seekers, who do not seek to divide the Indians on the basis of gender, caste, language or religion to remain in Power.
>
> R.N.Malhotra
> Former Chairman Railway Board
>
>
> ------------------------------ --------------
> On Fri, 9/2/16, Dr. NC Jain <j_nc2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS OBSERVATIONS
> To: "Natarajan" <natarajan218@yahoo.com>, "pitchappanrm@yahoo.co.uk" <pitchappanrm@yahoo.co.uk>, "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net " <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net >, "ravindra malhotra" <rnmalhotra_in@yahoo.com>
> Date: Friday, September 2, 2016, 11:57 AM
>
> Dear
> sir      These are clear cases
> of confirming that India is free and not the Indians. We
> should work hard to make Indians free . In other words,
> Indian freedom is needed and we should accelerate it by
> bringing out more such cases.Dr N C
> Jain2-9-16
>
>     On Wednesday, August
> 31, 2016 6:28 PM, Natarajan
> <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net > wrote:
>
>
>  Dear
> AllI am
> posting below a blog I wrote only this morning on Linkedin
> about Politician-Bureaucrat nexus in the context of the on
> going Coal Secretary's case in the Coal scam. In
> retrospect I feel judiciary is the third side of the
> triangle. The Judiciary prematurely blocked former PM's
> prosecution in the coal allotment scam and the 2G spectrum
> scam. The triangular nexus works mostly for the benefit of
> its own stakeholders including elite lawyers.As in the case
> of any rule there are a few honourable
> exceptionsIndia's
> Governance- The Politician-Bureaucratic
> NexusGovernance of India is the joint
> responsibility of elected politicians called Ministers
> headed by a Prime
> Minister and administrative executives at the top echelon
> called Secretaries of
> various departments dominated by the members of the Indian
> Administrative
> Service. Lately the country's administrative system
> comprising the above 2
> categories has been rocked by Coal allocation scam leading
> to the prosecution
> of H C Gupta former Coal Secretary in the Manmohan
> Government described as an
> 'honest upright' IAS Officer. The case has attracted
> much public attention.
> Gupta in his capacity of Coal Secretary and Chairman of an
> adhoc coal block
> allocation committee recommended the allotment of Coal
> blocks to many
> ineligible industrialists at throwaway prices for extraneous
> reasons, resulting
> in a huge loss of over 2 lakh crores to the exchequer. The
> case demonstrates
> the Politician -Bureaucrat nexus. The allotments were held
> illegal by the
> Supreme Court and cancelled. The coal mines subsequently
> were auctioned. The
> proceeds of auctions showed that the loss to the public
> exchequer would have
> been even more if the manipulators of the system had not
> been found out.Now Mr. Gupta (G) and some of
> the
> beneficiaries are being prosecuted for the role in the scam.
> G told the Court
> that he had no money to seek bail or appoint a lawyer and
> that he would
> personally argue his case from jail. The court was not
> amused. The judge asked
> Gupta to reconsider his offer. G has been certified by a
> group of fellow IAS
> bureaucrats as an honest and upright officer. They are
> outraged that such a man
> of integrity was being harassed for the duty he discharged
> in his official
> capacity. They fear is that such harassment would deter all
> of them from taking
> bold decisions and paralyze the bureaucratic administration.
> Some of its
> literary giants are to speaking up for their cause through
> newspaper articles.
> Suddenly Mr. Gupta made a U turn and withdrawn his strange
> request on the
> advice of his IAS friends.G has argued that he was merely
> the Chairman of the committee that took made the
> recommendations for allotment
> of mines and his boss the Coal Minister (PM Manmohan Singh
> was also the Coal Minister)
> was the approving authority and final decision maker. He
> claims that he had
> placed all the facts before the PM. G's case is that
> since the former PM is not
> being prosecuted there was no rationale behind holding Coal
> secretary accountable
> responsible and the case should be dismissed. The co-accused
> companies have
> also taken the same stand. Moreover he says that he did not
> benefit in any way
> by the allotment. Hence his plea for discharge.The discomfiture of the IAS
> lobby
> is understandable. This cadre of highly paid officers has
> sailed smoothly and
> prospered all along without any accountability ever since
> independence. They
> occupy all the top most posts in the Central and State
> Governments. Lately many
> of them have a flourishing after-retirement career under the
> aegis of the
> Government itself, draft their own rules for promotion under
> which they enjoy
> highly accelerated career growth leaving all the other
> professional cadres
> including armed forces far behind. They can do no wrong. In
> any other private or
> public organization in the world, if a person is rejected
> for a promotion he
> would at best stay where he is. However the IAS is
> different. It will surprise
> you to note that if 10 senior IAS secretaries are found
> unsuitable for
> Chief Secretary's post (carrying a higher pay due to extra
> responsibility) and
> a eleventh officer junior to all of them in seniority is
> selected, all the
> superseded officers will be rewarded for their unsuitability
> by being paid the
> same salary as the Chief Secretary without any additional
> responsibility. A
> senior IAS officer is always included in the pay commissions
> and ensured that
> the IAS cadre is dis-proportionally rewarded.Ministers are always dependent
> their IAS secretaries to execute their clandestine
> activities to favour businessmen
> and crooks at the cost of the exchequer. Unless a supportive
> noting is made by
> the Secretary on the file as a protective shield, no
> Minister would find it
> safe to show any undeserved favour to anyone. Even the
> Minister's foreign tour
> itineraries are imaginatively prepared by the Secretary to
> get approval of the
> PM. A smart Secretary scents suitable opportunities and
> creatively records the
> justification which the PMO cannot easily turn down. The
> entourage naturally
> would include the Secretary and his side kicks in this
> win-win collaboration. A
> recent example was the large secretarial delegation to Rio
> Olympics led by the
> Sports Minister. The Minister-Secretary nexus works
> beautifully. It also
> enables the bureaucrat to push some of his personal agenda
> through, like
> cornering a piece of Government land in a posh urban
> locality for a nominal
> price, or overseas scholarship for his son etc. Even many
> honest IAS officers
> have palatial homes in the best localities in their name or
> as a benami
> holding.  A Chief
> Secretary of Karnataka is said to be in a huge real estate
> business in
> Bengaluru in the name of his mother aged 86 years! If a maverick like Ashok
> Khemka IAS (who unearthed illegal allotment of land to one
> Robert Wadra) ,
> refuses to oblige his political boss he will  get shunted
> from pillar to
> post every few months. No Government would reward him for
> his honesty. A man
> called Bhatia was punished with 10 transfers in 10 months
> and was labelled a
> trouble maker.   A pliable Joshi in the MP cadre of IAS
> and his wife
> made and hid crores of rupees in their house. They are yet
> to be
> punished. Why has the IAS lobby risen in
> favour of Gupta? The parliament enacted a small amendment in
> the Prevention of
> Corruption Act which says that if any public servant either
> derives a pecuniary
> benefit for himself or allows another person to obtain
> unintended pecuniary
> advantage in a deal at the cost of the public exchequer he
> can be punished with
> imprisonment. Hence Gupta cannot escape by saying that he
> did not personally benefit
> from coal mines allotment. Moreover being the highest
> executive authority
> in the Administration he cannot escape personal
> responsibility. Pointing
> fingers at Manmohan Singh will not dilute his own criminal
> act, although there
> is merit in his argument that the latter is also culpable. G
> is sinking and the
> straw called Manmohan cannot save him. If Gupta is punished,
> it will put an end
> to the cozy relationship between IAS and the Ministers. Even
> ministers would
> hate such a prospect which will end their manipulation. No
> wonder the IAS lobby
> has started its breast beating act. Their fort is being
> raided. To help them in
> their cause there is already a bill in parliament to delete
> this provision and
> dilute the definition of corruption in the Prevention of
> Corruption Act. This
> just shows the nexus between politicians and babus no matter
> which party is
> running the government.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> G's is a test case. If he goes
> unpunished it will mean that no prosecution or conviction
> for corruption
>  will be possible in future. The bureaucrat will always
> argue that he is
> not responsible for a decision taken by his political boss.
> The political boss
> in turn will argue that he only went by the advice he
> received from his
> secretaryI The case will fall between two stools. The only
> hope is that the
> judge will stay his course. It is not sufficient for Gupta
> to say that he told
> the PM everything. He should be pardoned only if he comes
> clean, turns approver
> and also discloses the entire political intervention by
> Manmohan Singh and
> other Congress bosses in the scam. The CBI in turn should
> not hesitate to
> prosecute Manmohan Singh since  G and
> others gave implicated him. After all, the entire buck
> stopped at PMO and he
> did intervene in another allotment to the Birla group. He
> cannot claim ignorance
> or innocence.
>  With
> regards Prof N.Natarajan
>
>     On Wednesday, 31 August 2016 10:47 AM, ramasamy
> pitchappan <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net > wrote:
>
>
>
> #yiv2554299969   blockquote,
> #yiv2554299969   div.yiv2554299969yahoo_quoted
> {margin-left:0 !important;border-left:1px #715FFA solid
> !important;padding-left:1ex
> !important;background-color: white;}Indian judiciary
> and governance is a systematic vandelism by the
> (pseudo) elites - wherever they are.
> The problem is British left, but not
> their beuracracy. This applies in the case of judges also.
> But British have changed, we still have their code of
> conduct.
> Will India become
> quality based, one day!
> Doubtful. Root cause is the failure
> of our educational system, and failure of our elites. Most
> are egocentric and do not participate in nation building
> exercise - global economy a boon for them. This lead to
> bickering, private education, somehow employed in th Govt,
> or otherwise, get "alms", amaze wealth, and abuse
> all innocents, 95% of India, for their favour. With every
> move, corruption is systematised: a perfect system,
> including judiciary, has been developed.
> India is still the best - we boast -
> for democracy and  tolerance. But when will a common
> man get a service from GOVT, without paying a
> 'price'.
> The light in the tunnel
> is far away.
> Pitchappan
> On
> Friday, August 26, 2016, 20:21, ravindra malhotra
> <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net >
> wrote:Evidently, there
> are ills  in our judicial system. No use blaming only
> judiciary for the same. It is a combination of so many
> factors - some of which that come to mind are as follows
> -
>
> 1. Outdated laws that the
> executive has failed to update.
> 2. Very
> large number of vacancies in Judiciaries for which political
> bosses and executives are equally responsible as the
> judiciary itself. Bureaucratic delays in approvals are
> galore.
> 3. Government the biggest litigant -
> responsible the bureaucratic approach - some times Govt goes
> for litigation for small sums up to supreme court against
> poor employees / residents.
> 4. Advocates -
> who by unscrupulous means keep on extending the proceedings
> by forcing adjournments for their personnel gains
> 5. Corruption amongst advocates as well as
> judiciary
>
> R.N.Malhotra
>
> ------------------------------ --------------
> On Fri, 8/19/16, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>  Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF
> JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS
> OBSERVATIONS
>  To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net " <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net >
>  Date: Friday, August 19, 2016, 1:31 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  19/8/16
>
>
>
>  This holier than thou attitude of the Chief
> justice is
>  not helpful. It clearly negates
> any suggestion for
>  improvement in the
> working of the judiciary. Corruption is
>  not
> an issue for him. Suggestion that there should be court
>  of Appeals in metropolitan cities
>   like Chennai ,Calcutta and Mumbai is not
> acceptable to him.
>  Commercial courts for
> Govt. litigation is not being
>
> implemented.Gram Panchayats and alternative fora to ease
> the
>  pendency is not being
> implemented.Regds
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>  Subject: [IAC#RG] CHIEF
> JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW
>  RESTRAINT IN
> HIS OBSERVATIONS
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>           CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA
>  NEED TO SHOW  RESTRAINT IN  HIS
>  OBSERVATIONS
>
>
>
>
>  In open court, Chief Justice of
>  India has accused central government of
> bringing the entire
>  judiciary to a
> "grinding halt" by sitting on the
>
> recommendations of the collegium for appointment and
>  transfer
>   of judges to high
> courts across the country. It is
>  disturbing
> that he went to the extent of saying that the
>  court would not shy away from a confrontation
> with the
>  government, if driven to a
> corner.  He made such
>  remarks even when
> the Attorney General assured
>   that the
> issue would be taken up at the highest
>
> level.
>
>
>
>
>  Even while the Chief Justice made
>  such sharp remarks, the law minister has said
> that
>  appointment of number of judges
> would be finalized very
>  soon. Is Chief
> Justice not aware of this?
>
>
>
>  The
> collegium issue has been under
>  discussions
> for quite sometime now and many have questioned
>  the judges themselves appointing the judges ,
> when several
>  judges at various levels have
> been caught in corruption
>   scandals with
> one former Chief Justice of India
>  himself
> being one of the accused.
>  Government stand
> appears  to
>  be that there must be proper
> procedure and transparency in
>  selection of
> judges. There is nothing wrong with this view.
>
>   Chief Justice rejects
> the
>  government's view and insists that he
> should have the
>  final say. This stand of
> the Chief Justice is the origin of
>  the
> confrontation.
>
>
>
>  It would have been
> appropriate if
>  Chief Justice has read the
> mood of the people, who are
>  increasingly
> not sure about  the caliber of some of the
>
> judges.
>
>
>
> Reflecting such public mood , he
>  should
> accept the need for a level of transparency in the
>  appointment of judges. Threat of confrontation
> by Chief
>  Justice is not in tune with the
> functioning  of the
>  judiciary.
>
>
>
>
>  N.S.Venkataraman
>  Nandini Voice for The
>
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Friday, September 2, 2016

Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS OBSERVATIONS

I agree with Mr. Malhotra. It is sad, where and how u will start educating voters? Pl just look at us election. How trump got nomination? A rich and most judicious country like us and its voters are so much divided and confused, more than half of them do not like any of two?
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> On Sep 2, 2016, at 01:36, ravindra malhotra (via indiaresists Mailing List) <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
> Indians can become free only by using their vote judiciously and by not voting for criminals, corrupt, hypocrites and self seekers, who do not seek to divide the Indians on the basis of gender, caste, language or religion to remain in Power.
>
> R.N.Malhotra
> Former Chairman Railway Board
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> On Fri, 9/2/16, Dr. NC Jain <j_nc2000@yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS OBSERVATIONS
> To: "Natarajan" <natarajan218@yahoo.com>, "pitchappanrm@yahoo.co.uk" <pitchappanrm@yahoo.co.uk>, "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>, "ravindra malhotra" <rnmalhotra_in@yahoo.com>
> Date: Friday, September 2, 2016, 11:57 AM
>
> Dear
> sir These are clear cases
> of confirming that India is free and not the Indians. We
> should work hard to make Indians free . In other words,
> Indian freedom is needed and we should accelerate it by
> bringing out more such cases.Dr N C
> Jain2-9-16
>
> On Wednesday, August
> 31, 2016 6:28 PM, Natarajan
> <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
>
> Dear
> AllI am
> posting below a blog I wrote only this morning on Linkedin
> about Politician-Bureaucrat nexus in the context of the on
> going Coal Secretary's case in the Coal scam. In
> retrospect I feel judiciary is the third side of the
> triangle. The Judiciary prematurely blocked former PM's
> prosecution in the coal allotment scam and the 2G spectrum
> scam. The triangular nexus works mostly for the benefit of
> its own stakeholders including elite lawyers.As in the case
> of any rule there are a few honourable
> exceptionsIndia's
> Governance- The Politician-Bureaucratic
> NexusGovernance of India is the joint
> responsibility of elected politicians called Ministers
> headed by a Prime
> Minister and administrative executives at the top echelon
> called Secretaries of
> various departments dominated by the members of the Indian
> Administrative
> Service. Lately the country's administrative system
> comprising the above 2
> categories has been rocked by Coal allocation scam leading
> to the prosecution
> of H C Gupta former Coal Secretary in the Manmohan
> Government described as an
> 'honest upright' IAS Officer. The case has attracted
> much public attention.
> Gupta in his capacity of Coal Secretary and Chairman of an
> adhoc coal block
> allocation committee recommended the allotment of Coal
> blocks to many
> ineligible industrialists at throwaway prices for extraneous
> reasons, resulting
> in a huge loss of over 2 lakh crores to the exchequer. The
> case demonstrates
> the Politician -Bureaucrat nexus. The allotments were held
> illegal by the
> Supreme Court and cancelled. The coal mines subsequently
> were auctioned. The
> proceeds of auctions showed that the loss to the public
> exchequer would have
> been even more if the manipulators of the system had not
> been found out.Now Mr. Gupta (G) and some of
> the
> beneficiaries are being prosecuted for the role in the scam.
> G told the Court
> that he had no money to seek bail or appoint a lawyer and
> that he would
> personally argue his case from jail. The court was not
> amused. The judge asked
> Gupta to reconsider his offer. G has been certified by a
> group of fellow IAS
> bureaucrats as an honest and upright officer. They are
> outraged that such a man
> of integrity was being harassed for the duty he discharged
> in his official
> capacity. They fear is that such harassment would deter all
> of them from taking
> bold decisions and paralyze the bureaucratic administration.
> Some of its
> literary giants are to speaking up for their cause through
> newspaper articles.
> Suddenly Mr. Gupta made a U turn and withdrawn his strange
> request on the
> advice of his IAS friends.G has argued that he was merely
> the Chairman of the committee that took made the
> recommendations for allotment
> of mines and his boss the Coal Minister (PM Manmohan Singh
> was also the Coal Minister)
> was the approving authority and final decision maker. He
> claims that he had
> placed all the facts before the PM. G's case is that
> since the former PM is not
> being prosecuted there was no rationale behind holding Coal
> secretary accountable
> responsible and the case should be dismissed. The co-accused
> companies have
> also taken the same stand. Moreover he says that he did not
> benefit in any way
> by the allotment. Hence his plea for discharge.The discomfiture of the IAS
> lobby
> is understandable. This cadre of highly paid officers has
> sailed smoothly and
> prospered all along without any accountability ever since
> independence. They
> occupy all the top most posts in the Central and State
> Governments. Lately many
> of them have a flourishing after-retirement career under the
> aegis of the
> Government itself, draft their own rules for promotion under
> which they enjoy
> highly accelerated career growth leaving all the other
> professional cadres
> including armed forces far behind. They can do no wrong. In
> any other private or
> public organization in the world, if a person is rejected
> for a promotion he
> would at best stay where he is. However the IAS is
> different. It will surprise
> you to note that if 10 senior IAS secretaries are found
> unsuitable for
> Chief Secretary's post (carrying a higher pay due to extra
> responsibility) and
> a eleventh officer junior to all of them in seniority is
> selected, all the
> superseded officers will be rewarded for their unsuitability
> by being paid the
> same salary as the Chief Secretary without any additional
> responsibility. A
> senior IAS officer is always included in the pay commissions
> and ensured that
> the IAS cadre is dis-proportionally rewarded.Ministers are always dependent
> their IAS secretaries to execute their clandestine
> activities to favour businessmen
> and crooks at the cost of the exchequer. Unless a supportive
> noting is made by
> the Secretary on the file as a protective shield, no
> Minister would find it
> safe to show any undeserved favour to anyone. Even the
> Minister's foreign tour
> itineraries are imaginatively prepared by the Secretary to
> get approval of the
> PM. A smart Secretary scents suitable opportunities and
> creatively records the
> justification which the PMO cannot easily turn down. The
> entourage naturally
> would include the Secretary and his side kicks in this
> win-win collaboration. A
> recent example was the large secretarial delegation to Rio
> Olympics led by the
> Sports Minister. The Minister-Secretary nexus works
> beautifully. It also
> enables the bureaucrat to push some of his personal agenda
> through, like
> cornering a piece of Government land in a posh urban
> locality for a nominal
> price, or overseas scholarship for his son etc. Even many
> honest IAS officers
> have palatial homes in the best localities in their name or
> as a benami
> holding. A Chief
> Secretary of Karnataka is said to be in a huge real estate
> business in
> Bengaluru in the name of his mother aged 86 years! If a maverick like Ashok
> Khemka IAS (who unearthed illegal allotment of land to one
> Robert Wadra) ,
> refuses to oblige his political boss he will get shunted
> from pillar to
> post every few months. No Government would reward him for
> his honesty. A man
> called Bhatia was punished with 10 transfers in 10 months
> and was labelled a
> trouble maker. A pliable Joshi in the MP cadre of IAS
> and his wife
> made and hid crores of rupees in their house. They are yet
> to be
> punished. Why has the IAS lobby risen in
> favour of Gupta? The parliament enacted a small amendment in
> the Prevention of
> Corruption Act which says that if any public servant either
> derives a pecuniary
> benefit for himself or allows another person to obtain
> unintended pecuniary
> advantage in a deal at the cost of the public exchequer he
> can be punished with
> imprisonment. Hence Gupta cannot escape by saying that he
> did not personally benefit
> from coal mines allotment. Moreover being the highest
> executive authority
> in the Administration he cannot escape personal
> responsibility. Pointing
> fingers at Manmohan Singh will not dilute his own criminal
> act, although there
> is merit in his argument that the latter is also culpable. G
> is sinking and the
> straw called Manmohan cannot save him. If Gupta is punished,
> it will put an end
> to the cozy relationship between IAS and the Ministers. Even
> ministers would
> hate such a prospect which will end their manipulation. No
> wonder the IAS lobby
> has started its breast beating act. Their fort is being
> raided. To help them in
> their cause there is already a bill in parliament to delete
> this provision and
> dilute the definition of corruption in the Prevention of
> Corruption Act. This
> just shows the nexus between politicians and babus no matter
> which party is
> running the government.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> G's is a test case. If he goes
> unpunished it will mean that no prosecution or conviction
> for corruption
> will be possible in future. The bureaucrat will always
> argue that he is
> not responsible for a decision taken by his political boss.
> The political boss
> in turn will argue that he only went by the advice he
> received from his
> secretaryI The case will fall between two stools. The only
> hope is that the
> judge will stay his course. It is not sufficient for Gupta
> to say that he told
> the PM everything. He should be pardoned only if he comes
> clean, turns approver
> and also discloses the entire political intervention by
> Manmohan Singh and
> other Congress bosses in the scam. The CBI in turn should
> not hesitate to
> prosecute Manmohan Singh since G and
> others gave implicated him. After all, the entire buck
> stopped at PMO and he
> did intervene in another allotment to the Birla group. He
> cannot claim ignorance
> or innocence.
> With
> regards Prof N.Natarajan
>
> On Wednesday, 31 August 2016 10:47 AM, ramasamy
> pitchappan <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> #yiv2554299969 blockquote,
> #yiv2554299969 div.yiv2554299969yahoo_quoted
> {margin-left:0 !important;border-left:1px #715FFA solid
> !important;padding-left:1ex
> !important;background-color:white;}Indian judiciary
> and governance is a systematic vandelism by the
> (pseudo) elites - wherever they are.
> The problem is British left, but not
> their beuracracy. This applies in the case of judges also.
> But British have changed, we still have their code of
> conduct.
> Will India become
> quality based, one day!
> Doubtful. Root cause is the failure
> of our educational system, and failure of our elites. Most
> are egocentric and do not participate in nation building
> exercise - global economy a boon for them. This lead to
> bickering, private education, somehow employed in th Govt,
> or otherwise, get "alms", amaze wealth, and abuse
> all innocents, 95% of India, for their favour. With every
> move, corruption is systematised: a perfect system,
> including judiciary, has been developed.
> India is still the best - we boast -
> for democracy and tolerance. But when will a common
> man get a service from GOVT, without paying a
> 'price'.
> The light in the tunnel
> is far away.
> Pitchappan
> On
> Friday, August 26, 2016, 20:21, ravindra malhotra
> <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> wrote:Evidently, there
> are ills in our judicial system. No use blaming only
> judiciary for the same. It is a combination of so many
> factors - some of which that come to mind are as follows
> -
>
> 1. Outdated laws that the
> executive has failed to update.
> 2. Very
> large number of vacancies in Judiciaries for which political
> bosses and executives are equally responsible as the
> judiciary itself. Bureaucratic delays in approvals are
> galore.
> 3. Government the biggest litigant -
> responsible the bureaucratic approach - some times Govt goes
> for litigation for small sums up to supreme court against
> poor employees / residents.
> 4. Advocates -
> who by unscrupulous means keep on extending the proceedings
> by forcing adjournments for their personnel gains
> 5. Corruption amongst advocates as well as
> judiciary
>
> R.N.Malhotra
>
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> On Fri, 8/19/16, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF
> JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS
> OBSERVATIONS
> To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
> Date: Friday, August 19, 2016, 1:31 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> 19/8/16
>
>
>
> This holier than thou attitude of the Chief
> justice is
> not helpful. It clearly negates
> any suggestion for
> improvement in the
> working of the judiciary. Corruption is
> not
> an issue for him. Suggestion that there should be court
> of Appeals in metropolitan cities
> like Chennai ,Calcutta and Mumbai is not
> acceptable to him.
> Commercial courts for
> Govt. litigation is not being
>
> implemented.Gram Panchayats and alternative fora to ease
> the
> pendency is not being
> implemented.Regds
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From:
> indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net
> <indiaresists-request@lists.riseup.net>
> on behalf of
> Venkatraman Ns <nsvenkatchennai@gmail.com>
>
> Sent: Saturday, August 13,
> 2016 7:38 PM
>
> To: indiaresists@lists.riseup.net
>
> Subject: [IAC#RG] CHIEF
> JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW
> RESTRAINT IN
> HIS OBSERVATIONS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> To
>
>
>
> India
> Against Corruption
>
>
>
>
>
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA
> NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS
> OBSERVATIONS
>
>
>
>
> In open court, Chief Justice of
> India has accused central government of
> bringing the entire
> judiciary to a
> "grinding halt" by sitting on the
>
> recommendations of the collegium for appointment and
> transfer
> of judges to high
> courts across the country. It is
> disturbing
> that he went to the extent of saying that the
> court would not shy away from a confrontation
> with the
> government, if driven to a
> corner. He made such
> remarks even when
> the Attorney General assured
> that the
> issue would be taken up at the highest
>
> level.
>
>
>
>
> Even while the Chief Justice made
> such sharp remarks, the law minister has said
> that
> appointment of number of judges
> would be finalized very
> soon. Is Chief
> Justice not aware of this?
>
>
>
> The
> collegium issue has been under
> discussions
> for quite sometime now and many have questioned
> the judges themselves appointing the judges ,
> when several
> judges at various levels have
> been caught in corruption
> scandals with
> one former Chief Justice of India
> himself
> being one of the accused.
> Government stand
> appears to
> be that there must be proper
> procedure and transparency in
> selection of
> judges. There is nothing wrong with this view.
>
> Chief Justice rejects
> the
> government's view and insists that he
> should have the
> final say. This stand of
> the Chief Justice is the origin of
> the
> confrontation.
>
>
>
> It would have been
> appropriate if
> Chief Justice has read the
> mood of the people, who are
> increasingly
> not sure about the caliber of some of the
>
> judges.
>
>
>
> Reflecting such public mood , he
> should
> accept the need for a level of transparency in the
> appointment of judges. Threat of confrontation
> by Chief
> Justice is not in tune with the
> functioning of the
> judiciary.
>
>
>
>
> N.S.Venkataraman
> Nandini Voice for The
>
> Deprived
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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[IAC#RG] Request for clarification about certain libels by your party spokesperson made in connection with ex-Minister Sandeep Kumar

Dear Chief Minister

Sub: Request for urgent clarification about certain libels made by your party spokesperson in connection with ex-Minister Sandeep Kumar's dimissal

I must inform you that the entire high command of Hindustan Republican Army (HRA) is extremely upset with the insensitive, illiterate and uncouth comments of your AAP spokesman Ashutosh made in a NDTV blog post titled as "The Sex Was Consensual, Private Act. Why AAP Punished Its Man" published: September 01, 2016 20:27 IST and accessible at

http://www.ndtv.com/opinion/the-sex-was-consensual-private-act-why-aap-punished-its-man-1453374

In a melange of bizarre assertations defending the indefensible sexual escapades of your AAP minister, your party spokesman has alleged as follows:

"Indian history is full of examples of our leaders and heroes who had lived with their desires beyond social boundaries. Pandit Jawahar Lal Nehru's reported affairs with many female colleagues were juicy gossip but it didn't spoil his political career. His relationship with Edwina Mountbatten is widely discussed. The entire world knew about it. Their affections continued till Pt. Nehru's last breath. Was it a sin? History is also witness to the fact that top leaders of the Congress in 1910s were worried about Gandhiji's relationship with Sarla Chaudhary, who was distantly related to Rabindra Nath Tagore. Gandhi Ji had confessed that Sarla was his spiritual wife. Kasturba Gandhi was very disturbed. C Rajagopalchari and other senior leaders of the party had to intervene. They persuaded, pressured, cajoled Gandhi-ji to leave Sarla. Gandhiji in his later days slept naked with his two nieces to experiment with celibacy. Pandit Nehru had told him not to do so as the country would rise against him but Gandhi-ji did not budge."

Can you please clarify for the benefit of HRA movement your party spokeperson's very recent writings besmirching HRA's icon Sarala Devi Chaudhurani

a)  What if any, as per AAP spoekesperson, was the exact "relationship" Gandhi (HRA will not dignify this turd on India's history by affixing a suffix "ji" to his surname) had with this "Sarla Chaudhary" ?

b) How exactly was Sarala Devi Chaudhurani "distantly related" to Rabindranath Tagore ? Was she not his niece ?

c) Which history records as a "fact" that there was anything remotely sexual in this alleged relationship ? Do you seriously count the alleged historian grandson (who incidentally is also a member of your party) of the homosexual traitor Gandhi as a credible source for this canard ? Can you show that Gandhi was in India in 1910 ?

d) What is the purpose of the AAP's gutter innunedo by coupling of references to Gandhi sleeping naked with his nieces made just after the unsullied name of Sarala Devi Chaudurani ? Are you, and your fellow RSS dropouts for whom Mohan Gandoo is the new symbol, so under-educated and unaware that in 1910 (Ashutosh's date not mine) the "top Congress leadership" was actually disturbed with Gandhi's German homosexual Jewish lover Kaltenbach who had gifted a 1,000 acre farm in South Africa to Gandhi so the two top-n-bottom "soulmates" (Gandhi's words not mine) could live together forever ? In 1910 Kasturba Gandhi was actually disturbed about the homo-erotic Gandoo dalliances with Kaltenbach, which is something which the mostly homosexual top brass of RSS (and AAP ??) wish to cover up concerning their darling icon.

e) Therefore, Hindustan Republican Army seeks from these 2 AAP defamers, ie Shri Ashutosh Gupta, and Shri Rajmohan Gandhi the complete explanation why some AAP persons have defamed and sullied the pure name of a chaste Brahmin lady from Punjab of one of the leading Mohyal (Brahmin) and Arya Samaji families of Punjab by repeating certain canards concocted by some members of your party.

PS: Since the videos circulating of your ex-Minister show that whereas the sexual congress bwetween the players was conceivably as real as that between the AAP and Congress in those 49 days, the women involved definitely then did not give consent to either (a) the secret recording of these objectionable adulterous acts by your party MLA, or (b) the publishing of these videos by your Minister.

I reiterate that if you are actually as honest as you publicly proclaim yourself to be, you will get Sandeep Kumar prosecuted for his criminal offences under Information Technology Act as expeditously as you dismissed him.

sincerely

Sarbajit Roy

Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS OBSERVATIONS

Indians can become free only by using their vote judiciously and by not voting for criminals, corrupt, hypocrites and self seekers, who do not seek to divide the Indians on the basis of gender, caste, language or religion to remain in Power.

R.N.Malhotra
Former Chairman Railway Board


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On Fri, 9/2/16, Dr. NC Jain <j_nc2000@yahoo.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS OBSERVATIONS
To: "Natarajan" <natarajan218@yahoo.com>, "pitchappanrm@yahoo.co.uk" <pitchappanrm@yahoo.co.uk>, "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>, "ravindra malhotra" <rnmalhotra_in@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, September 2, 2016, 11:57 AM

Dear
sir      These are clear cases
of confirming that India is free and not the Indians. We
should work hard to make Indians free . In other words,
Indian freedom is needed and we should accelerate it by
bringing out more such cases.Dr N C
Jain2-9-16

On Wednesday, August
31, 2016 6:28 PM, Natarajan
<indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:


Dear
AllI am
posting below a blog I wrote only this morning on Linkedin
about Politician-Bureaucrat nexus in the context of the on
going Coal Secretary's case in the Coal scam. In
retrospect I feel judiciary is the third side of the
triangle. The Judiciary prematurely blocked former PM's
prosecution in the coal allotment scam and the 2G spectrum
scam. The triangular nexus works mostly for the benefit of
its own stakeholders including elite lawyers.As in the case
of any rule there are a few honourable
exceptionsIndia's
Governance- The Politician-Bureaucratic
NexusGovernance of India is the joint
responsibility of elected politicians called Ministers
headed by a Prime
Minister and administrative executives at the top echelon
called Secretaries of
various departments dominated by the members of the Indian
Administrative
Service. Lately the country's administrative system
comprising the above 2
categories has been rocked by Coal allocation scam leading
to the prosecution
of H C Gupta former Coal Secretary in the Manmohan
Government described as an
'honest upright' IAS Officer. The case has attracted
much public attention.
Gupta in his capacity of Coal Secretary and Chairman of an
adhoc coal block
allocation committee recommended the allotment of Coal
blocks to many
ineligible industrialists at throwaway prices for extraneous
reasons, resulting
in a huge loss of over 2 lakh crores to the exchequer. The
case demonstrates
the Politician -Bureaucrat nexus. The allotments were held
illegal by the
Supreme Court and cancelled. The coal mines subsequently
were auctioned. The
proceeds of auctions showed that the loss to the public
exchequer would have
been even more if the manipulators of the system had not
been found out.Now Mr. Gupta (G) and some of
the
beneficiaries are being prosecuted for the role in the scam.
G told the Court
that he had no money to seek bail or appoint a lawyer and
that he would
personally argue his case from jail. The court was not
amused. The judge asked
Gupta to reconsider his offer. G has been certified by a
group of fellow IAS
bureaucrats as an honest and upright officer. They are
outraged that such a man
of integrity was being harassed for the duty he discharged
in his official
capacity. They fear is that such harassment would deter all
of them from taking
bold decisions and paralyze the bureaucratic administration.
Some of its
literary giants are to speaking up for their cause through
newspaper articles.
Suddenly Mr. Gupta made a U turn and withdrawn his strange
request on the
advice of his IAS friends.G has argued that he was merely
the Chairman of the committee that took made the
recommendations for allotment
of mines and his boss the Coal Minister (PM Manmohan Singh
was also the Coal Minister)
was the approving authority and final decision maker. He
claims that he had
placed all the facts before the PM. G's case is that
since the former PM is not
being prosecuted there was no rationale behind holding Coal
secretary accountable
responsible and the case should be dismissed. The co-accused
companies have
also taken the same stand. Moreover he says that he did not
benefit in any way
by the allotment. Hence his plea for discharge.The discomfiture of the IAS
lobby
is understandable. This cadre of highly paid officers has
sailed smoothly and
prospered all along without any accountability ever since
independence. They
occupy all the top most posts in the Central and State
Governments. Lately many
of them have a flourishing after-retirement career under the
aegis of the
Government itself, draft their own rules for promotion under
which they enjoy
highly accelerated career growth leaving all the other
professional cadres
including armed forces far behind. They can do no wrong. In
any other private or
public organization in the world, if a person is rejected
for a promotion he
would at best stay where he is. However the IAS is
different. It will surprise
you to note that if 10 senior IAS secretaries are found 
unsuitable for
Chief Secretary's post (carrying a higher pay due to extra
responsibility) and
a eleventh officer junior to all of them in seniority is
selected, all the
superseded officers will be rewarded for their unsuitability
by being paid the
same salary as the Chief Secretary without any additional
responsibility. A
senior IAS officer is always included in the pay commissions
and ensured that
the IAS cadre is dis-proportionally rewarded.Ministers are always dependent
their IAS secretaries to execute their clandestine
activities to favour businessmen
and crooks at the cost of the exchequer. Unless a supportive
noting is made by
the Secretary on the file as a protective shield, no
Minister would find it
safe to show any undeserved favour to anyone. Even the
Minister's foreign tour
itineraries are imaginatively prepared by the Secretary to
get approval of the
PM. A smart Secretary scents suitable opportunities and
creatively records the
justification which the PMO cannot easily turn down. The
entourage naturally
would include the Secretary and his side kicks in this
win-win collaboration. A
recent example was the large secretarial delegation to Rio
Olympics led by the
Sports Minister. The Minister-Secretary nexus works
beautifully. It also
enables the bureaucrat to push some of his personal agenda
through, like
cornering a piece of Government land in a posh urban
locality for a nominal
price, or overseas scholarship for his son etc. Even many
honest IAS officers
have palatial homes in the best localities in their name or
as a benami
holding.  A Chief
Secretary of Karnataka is said to be in a huge real estate
business in
Bengaluru in the name of his mother aged 86 years! If a maverick like Ashok
Khemka IAS (who unearthed illegal allotment of land to one
Robert Wadra) ,
refuses to oblige his political boss he will  get shunted
from pillar to
post every few months. No Government would reward him for
his honesty. A man
called Bhatia was punished with 10 transfers in 10 months
and was labelled a
trouble maker.   A pliable Joshi in the MP cadre of IAS
and his wife
made and hid crores of rupees in their house. They are yet
to be
punished. Why has the IAS lobby risen in
favour of Gupta? The parliament enacted a small amendment in
the Prevention of
Corruption Act which says that if any public servant either
derives a pecuniary
benefit for himself or allows another person to obtain
unintended pecuniary
advantage in a deal at the cost of the public exchequer he
can be punished with
imprisonment. Hence Gupta cannot escape by saying that he
did not personally benefit
from coal mines allotment. Moreover being the highest
executive authority
in the Administration he cannot escape personal
responsibility. Pointing
fingers at Manmohan Singh will not dilute his own criminal
act, although there
is merit in his argument that the latter is also culpable. G
is sinking and the
straw called Manmohan cannot save him. If Gupta is punished,
it will put an end
to the cozy relationship between IAS and the Ministers. Even
ministers would
hate such a prospect which will end their manipulation. No
wonder the IAS lobby
has started its breast beating act. Their fort is being
raided. To help them in
their cause there is already a bill in parliament to delete
this provision and
dilute the definition of corruption in the Prevention of
Corruption Act. This
just shows the nexus between politicians and babus no matter
which party is
running the government.















G's is a test case. If he goes
unpunished it will mean that no prosecution or conviction
for corruption
 will be possible in future. The bureaucrat will always
argue that he is
not responsible for a decision taken by his political boss.
The political boss
in turn will argue that he only went by the advice he
received from his
secretaryI The case will fall between two stools. The only
hope is that the
judge will stay his course. It is not sufficient for Gupta
to say that he told
the PM everything. He should be pardoned only if he comes
clean, turns approver
and also discloses the entire political intervention by
Manmohan Singh and
other Congress bosses in the scam. The CBI in turn should
not hesitate to
prosecute Manmohan Singh since  G and
others gave implicated him. After all, the entire buck
stopped at PMO and he
did intervene in another allotment to the Birla group. He
cannot claim ignorance
or innocence.
 With
regards Prof N.Natarajan

On Wednesday, 31 August 2016 10:47 AM, ramasamy
pitchappan <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net> wrote:



#yiv2554299969 blockquote,
#yiv2554299969 div.yiv2554299969yahoo_quoted
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!important;background-color:white;}Indian judiciary
and governance is a systematic vandelism by the
(pseudo) elites - wherever they are.
The problem is British left, but not
their beuracracy. This applies in the case of judges also.
But British have changed, we still have their code of
conduct.
Will India become
quality based, one day!
Doubtful. Root cause is the failure
of our educational system, and failure of our elites. Most
are egocentric and do not participate in nation building
exercise - global economy a boon for them. This lead to
bickering, private education, somehow employed in th Govt,
or otherwise, get "alms", amaze wealth, and abuse
all innocents, 95% of India, for their favour. With every
move, corruption is systematised: a perfect system,
including judiciary, has been developed.
India is still the best - we boast -
for democracy and  tolerance. But when will a common
man get a service from GOVT, without paying a
'price'. 
The light in the tunnel
is far away.
Pitchappan
On
Friday, August 26, 2016, 20:21, ravindra malhotra
<indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
wrote:Evidently, there
are ills  in our judicial system. No use blaming only
judiciary for the same. It is a combination of so many
factors - some of which that come to mind are as follows
-

1. Outdated laws that the
executive has failed to update.
2. Very
large number of vacancies in Judiciaries for which political
bosses and executives are equally responsible as the
judiciary itself. Bureaucratic delays in approvals are
galore.
3. Government the biggest litigant -
responsible the bureaucratic approach - some times Govt goes
for litigation for small sums up to supreme court against
poor employees / residents.
4. Advocates -
who by unscrupulous means keep on extending the proceedings
by forcing adjournments for their personnel gains
5. Corruption amongst advocates as well as
judiciary

R.N.Malhotra

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On Fri, 8/19/16, Gaur J K <gaurjk@hotmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [IAC#RG] CHIEF
JUSTICE OF INDIA NEED TO SHOW RESTRAINT IN HIS
OBSERVATIONS
To: "indiaresists@lists.riseup.net" <indiaresists@lists.riseup.net>
Date: Friday, August 19, 2016, 1:31 PM



 




19/8/16



This holier than thou attitude of the Chief
justice is
not helpful. It clearly negates
any suggestion for
improvement in the
working of the judiciary. Corruption is
not
an issue for him. Suggestion that there should be court
of Appeals in metropolitan cities
  like Chennai ,Calcutta and Mumbai is not
acceptable to him.
Commercial courts for
Govt. litigation is not being

implemented.Gram Panchayats and alternative fora to ease
the
pendency is not being
implemented.Regds  






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         CHIEF JUSTICE OF INDIA
NEED TO SHOW  RESTRAINT IN  HIS
OBSERVATIONS
 



In open court, Chief Justice of
India has accused central government of
bringing the entire
judiciary to a
"grinding halt" by sitting on the

recommendations of the collegium for appointment and
transfer
  of judges to high
courts across the country. It is
disturbing
that he went to the extent of saying that the
court would not shy away from a confrontation
with the
government, if driven to a
corner.  He made such
remarks even when
the Attorney General assured
  that the
issue would be taken up at the highest

level.




Even while the Chief Justice made
such sharp remarks, the law minister has said
that 
appointment of number of judges
would be finalized very
soon. Is Chief
Justice not aware of this?



The
collegium issue has been under
discussions
for quite sometime now and many have questioned
the judges themselves appointing the judges ,
when several
judges at various levels have
been caught in corruption
  scandals with
one former Chief Justice of India
himself 
being one of the accused.
Government stand
appears  to
be that there must be proper
procedure and transparency in
selection of
judges. There is nothing wrong with this view.

 Chief Justice rejects
the
government's view and insists that he
should have the
final say. This stand of
the Chief Justice is the origin of
the
confrontation.



It would have been
appropriate if
Chief Justice has read the
mood of the people, who are
increasingly
not sure about  the caliber of some of the

judges.



Reflecting such public mood , he
should
accept the need for a level of transparency in the
appointment of judges. Threat of confrontation
by Chief
Justice is not in tune with the
functioning  of the
judiciary.
 



N.S.Venkataraman
Nandini Voice for The

Deprived








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